From: bob urz on
I just did Ruthie foster blues act this evening and was thinking about
how i have been laying the board out and what makes the most sense.

Tonight, i had across the front:

guitar vocal, guitar DI, headliner key vox, headliner guitar vox,
headliner keys DI, headliner guitar DI, bass vox and bass DI across the
front starting with channel 1.

I kept them grouped by individuals together. The way i have been doing
it. But i had considered doing all vox first, then instruments.

How have you guys been laying out the board in PAYING gigs?

This gig was a club series gig in a 300 seat room.
and i was warned the grand Puba of the facility was going to
be a few tables from me and that i should keep the level
down. Hell, what did they think i was doing? playing a CD?
The volume crept up as the musician on stage did.
It was NO elevator music, but i did not pierce any eardrums.
I had JBL self powered traps on poles with self powered subs.
I liked the subs, but the 12/2 powered traps sounded way vocally mushy
compared to the VRX JBL's i usually use in the room. And 125 was killing me.

I did experiment with some SM99 goose neck mikes for toms mikes on
clamps (did not have any 98's). That worked out pretty good.
I used Beta91 for kick which was stout. i used 81's overhead and it
seemed i did not get the shimmer i am used to (usually use KSM32/414's).

We had two simultaneous events at the hall this weekend so my mike
supply and equipment was limited. The mix was on a GB-8 which was OK,
but i miss the VCA's on the halls MH3. And YES, it was vocal 58's
accross the front. As the act requested.



Bob

From: Ron(UK) on
bob urz wrote:
> I just did Ruthie foster blues act this evening and was thinking about
> how i have been laying the board out and what makes the most sense.
>
> Tonight, i had across the front:
>
> guitar vocal, guitar DI, headliner key vox, headliner guitar vox,
> headliner keys DI, headliner guitar DI, bass vox and bass DI across the
> front starting with channel 1.
>
> I kept them grouped by individuals together. The way i have been doing
> it. But i had considered doing all vox first, then instruments.


On that kind if gig I usually do (from channel 1)

Kick, snare, hat, rack, floor, ovh, bass, then depending on where they
are on stage, keys, guitars, others, then vocals. I usually group the
kit, and vocals if there`s more than a couple

You're going to get a lot of opinions, because everyone does it their
own way.

Ron(UK)
From: FatBoySlimFast on
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:37:14 -0500, bob urz <sound(a)inetnebr.com>
wrote:
>How have you guys been laying out the board in PAYING gigs?

Hi Bob,

For what it's worth this is what I do (as a weekend warrior!) ... left
to right ...

Mics for vocals (main first, BVs later)
Mics for a/c instruments
Drums
DIs
CD / MD / iPod / whatever

I don't know why I do it this way.

Cheers,
Steve W

From: Tim S Kemp on
bob urz wrote:
> I just did Ruthie foster blues act this evening and was thinking about
> how i have been laying the board out and what makes the most sense.


For me - right to left (so from the master) I have BGM and announcers mics.

Left to right - lead vox, trax,lead inst, drums, backing inst, BVs, choirs.
Kind of. Varies as to the kind of gig but normally.



From: Stuart Padbury on
Ron(UK) wrote:
> bob urz wrote:
>> I just did Ruthie foster blues act this evening and was thinking about
>> how i have been laying the board out and what makes the most sense.

I like to keep the rhythm section, the other instruments and the vocals
together. Typically, something like this:

drums
bass
other backline (stage right to left)
frontline (stage right to left)
downstage vocals (stage right to left)
yapping drummers
fx returns
talk-to-stage

I'll vary the plan if there's stuff that need lots of fx tweaking; I
like to keep them together, near the fx returns. Where possible, I try
to keep groups of channels together ie not on different channel banks,
not separated by the master section of the board and so on. That's what
I think about when planning the patch, anyway.

Cheers,

Stu.
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