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From: alt.os.linux.mandrake Stats on 20 Jul 2007 16:11
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Analysis of posts to alt.os.linux.mandrake by Robert Marshall
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(stats compiled with a script by Garry Knight)


Total posts considered: 45 over 7 days
Earliest article: Fri Jul 13 21:25:06 2007
Latest article: Fri Jul 20 11:25:02 2007
Original articles: 5, replies: 40
Total size of posts: 182,114 bytes (177K) (0.17M)
Average 6 articles per day, 0.02 MB per day, 4,046 bytes per article
Total headers: 84 KB bodies: 93 KB
Body text - quoted: 30 KB, original: 61 KB = 67.04%, sigs: 1 KB
Total number of posters: 14, average 13,008 bytes per poster
Total number of threads: 11, average 16,555 bytes per thread
Total number of User-Agents: 24

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Top 14 posters by number of articles
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1: ibuprofin(a)painkiller.example.tld (Moe Trin).................... : 14
2: Adam <look(a)bottom.for.address>................................. : 11
3: user <user(a)example.net>........................................ : 5
4: Adam <nospam(a)example.com>...................................... : 3
5: "Peter D." <psd(a)live.home.invalid>............................. : 2
6: me <a(a)b.com>................................................... : 2
7: alt.os.linux.mandriva Stats <usenet(a)capuchin.co.uk>............ : 1
8: cedrik <--boussier.cedrik(a)wanadoo.fr>.......................... : 1
9: alt.os.linux.mandrake Stats <usenet(a)capuchin.co.uk>............ : 1
10: Ron Gibson <rsgibson(a)verizon.net>.............................. : 1
11: "Robert M. Riches Jr." <spamtrap42(a)verizon.net>................ : 1
12: Bit Twister <BitTwister(a)mouse-potato.com>...................... : 1
13: Rob <dislexic_wobmat(a)NOSPAMyahoo.com>.......................... : 1
14: Dan Espen <daneNO(a)MORE.mk.SPAMtelcordia.com>................... : 1

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Top 14 posters by article size in Kbytes
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1: ibuprofin(a)painkiller.example.tld (Moe Trin).................... : 63
2: Adam <look(a)bottom.for.address>................................. : 33
3: user <user(a)example.net>........................................ : 24
4: alt.os.linux.mandriva Stats <usenet(a)capuchin.co.uk>............ : 13
5: alt.os.linux.mandrake Stats <usenet(a)capuchin.co.uk>............ : 10
6: Adam <nospam(a)example.com>...................................... : 8
7: me <a(a)b.com>................................................... : 6
8: "Peter D." <psd(a)live.home.invalid>............................. : 5
9: Dan Espen <daneNO(a)MORE.mk.SPAMtelcordia.com>................... : 2
10: "Robert M. Riches Jr." <spamtrap42(a)verizon.net>................ : 2
11: Rob <dislexic_wobmat(a)NOSPAMyahoo.com>.......................... : 2
12: Bit Twister <BitTwister(a)mouse-potato.com>...................... : 1
13: Ron Gibson <rsgibson(a)verizon.net>.............................. : 1
14: cedrik <--boussier.cedrik(a)wanadoo.fr>.......................... : 1

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Top 2 responders by original text (> 5 posts)
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1: ibuprofin(a)painkiller.example.tld (Moe Trin).................... : 63.72%
2: Adam <look(a)bottom.for.address>................................. : 54.44%

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Bottom 2 responders by original text (> 5 posts)
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1: user <user(a)example.net>........................................ : 27.26%
2: Adam <look(a)bottom.for.address>................................. : 54.44%

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Top 11 threads by no. of articles
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1: [OT] Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake...................... : 22
2: [Way OT] Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake.................. : 6
3: HELP xorg.conf not working..................................... : 5
4: [OT] Gasoline.................................................. : 5
5: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake........................... : 1
6: test........................................................... : 1
7: [OT] test...................................................... : 1
8: net connection drops when local network is pluggied in......... : 1
9: Gasoline....................................................... : 1
10: Webmin group started. Gurus needed............................. : 1
11: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandriva........................... : 1

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Top 11 threads by size in KB
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1: [OT] Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake...................... : 84
2: [Way OT] Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake.................. : 22
3: [OT] Gasoline.................................................. : 20
4: HELP xorg.conf not working..................................... : 14
5: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandriva........................... : 13
6: Statistics for alt.os.linux.mandrake........................... : 10
7: Gasoline....................................................... : 4
8: net connection drops when local network is pluggied in......... : 2
9: [OT] test...................................................... : 1
10: Webmin group started. Gurus needed............................. : 1
11: test........................................................... : 1

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Top 1 cross-posted groups
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1: alt.os.linux.mandriva.......................................... : 3

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Top 10 User Agents by poster
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1: slrn........................................................... : 3
2: KNode.......................................................... : 3
3: Mozilla........................................................ : 2
4: Unknown........................................................ : 2
5: Gnus........................................................... : 1
6: Pan............................................................ : 1
7: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11....................................... : 1
8: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (X11....................................... : 1
9: News Rover..................................................... : 0
10: MacSOUP........................................................ : 0

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Top 9 User Agents by number of posts
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1: slrn...................................................... : 16 (36%)
2: Mozilla................................................... : 13 (29%)
3: KNode..................................................... : 6 (13%)
4: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11.................................. : 4 ( 9%)
5: unknown................................................... : 2 ( 4%)
6: Gnus...................................................... : 1 ( 2%)
7: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11.................................. : 1 ( 2%)
8: Pan....................................................... : 1 ( 2%)
9: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (X11.................................. : 1 ( 2%)

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2: UTC............................................................ : 15
3: +0200.......................................................... : 3
4: +1000.......................................................... : 3
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From: Adam on 20 Jul 2007 20:26
Robert M. Riches Jr. wrote:
>> When I plug it into the CD player's headphone jack, the
>> sound through the car speakers has hardly any treble. When I plug it
>> into the player's line out jack, the sound is way too trebly.
>
> My guess would be the headphone jack has a strong bass boost
> to make up for the lack of bass response of many/most modern
> small headphones, and the line out jack has a DC blocking
> capacitor in series with the output that is for a much
> higher impedance than the cassette-like adapter.
>
> Can you turn _off_ the headphone jack's bass boost?

Thanks, Robert. Unfortunately, since posting my original query, the
portable CD player in question [Memorex MPD8860] seems to have stopped
working completely. (The headphones it came with were garbage to begin
with.) I've bought a different brand [Panasonic SL-SV590] that I hope
will last longer, and actually came with adequate headphones. No "line
out" (or DC in) jacks, though, and a much less informative LCD display.
When I hook the new one up through my car's tape player (with bass
boost off), sound is okay except there's not much high end. I guess my
next steps, if I'm going to put any time into this, would be to listen
to portable CD player with good headphones, and also listen to same
music in car from good quality cassette dub. I'm just glad I'm one of
those people who can get along with something less than highest-fi.

Another Adam
From: Moe Trin on 21 Jul 2007 16:37
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.os.linux.mandrake, in article
<mpcoi.1978$jC4.1500(a)trndny09>, Adam wrote:

>Moe Trin wrote:

>> No doubt - but you'll notice that it's not distribution specific, and
>> mentions virtually none of the helper tools.
>
>What do you mean by "helper tools"? Things like urpmi?

That would be one example - it's really a front-end for rpm itself,
while rpm itself is an amalgamation of file packing, scripting, and
a database tool. urpmi is Mandrake specific as I recall.

Generally when I talk about helper tools, I'm referring to something
meant to act as a front end to a more basic tool. You could take this
back to something like 'adduser' or 'useradd' which started as scripts
to take inputs of username, GECOS name, and maybe a few other optional
parameters, and

1. create the entry in /etc/password (and /etc/shadow if applicable)
2. add a username to /etc/group (and /etc/gshadow if applicable)
3. create a home directory
4. populate the home directory from /etc/skel
5. create the mail directory in /var/spool/mail/
6. change ownership and modes as applicable
7. (optionally0 send the new user a mail welcoming them

One step instead of seven - with a lot more consistency. Typo the
username, and it's the same everywhere, rather than just in a single
file or directory. That actually is a major advantage. At the other
end, you find a helper that asks three or four questions, and creates
a dialout setup, creating the right scripts, with the handful of
options needed (pppd alone has 166 "standard" options, most of which
are never used).)

>Yeah. http://rinkworks.com/stupid/ even has one story where "In other
>words, you had to be a member of the thing to be able to download the
>software to become a member."

I'm sure there are thousands of similar stories. You know that who-ever
creates a situation like this never even bothers to think it all the way
through, and often can't see the problem it creates.

Old guy
From: Adam on 23 Jul 2007 20:41
Moe Trin wrote:
>> Routes 9 and 9A then onto Saw Mill Pkwy at Hawthorne, which leads to
>> Henry Hudson Pkwy and West Side Highway. Still the fastest way to get
>> to midtown (or Brooklyn) by car.
>
> STILL??? I remember taking the Merritt Parkway to the Hutchison River
> to the Cross County, to the Saw Mill to the West Side Highway in...

Well, you were coming from the east, Connecticut or eastern Westchester
County. Remember that I'm starting pretty much along the Hudson. Back
in '01 a friend and I drove in to NYC. She'd never heard of my route,
but admitted it was surprisingly faster than the route she was used to.

> 90 minutes to LGA? What time of night?

During the day on a weekday, early September '98.

> To some extent, it depends on the density of the houses, but now-adays
> you see high voltage on top, maybe an extra line or two for street
> lights, then the low voltage residential distribution, phone cables, and
> the cable TV on the bottom. In most of the country, there will a ground
> wire at the highest point to provide limited lightning protection.

I was at my parents' house on Saturday, and counted six cables
connecting the poles. No streetlights. From the bottom up, thick, 3
medium, 2 thin. Thick (maybe 1" diameter) was telephone, first medium
was cable TV (these two had inline amps or filters or something), next
two mediums and first thin appeared to be electric, top was ground (and
perch for birds).

Another Adam
From: Adam on 23 Jul 2007 20:41
Moe Trin wrote:
> Generally when I talk about helper tools, I'm referring to something
> meant to act as a front end to a more basic tool.

Oh, okay. Like Mandriva's 'msec' -- one command sets all sorts of
privileges and permissions. (It took me a while to figure out that one,
but I did.)

Another Adam
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