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From: Gerry Peters on 31 Oct 2006 15:17
I think I have some bad clusters on my C drive of my DAW. Using CHKDSK
/R on bootup, doesn't fix them. Partition Magic 8.1 floppy version
will check for bad clusters and not find any. Is there another utility
that will fix them? Or do I need to reformat, repartition, and and
build the HD back up?

Here's why I think I have some bad clusters.

I have an Athlon 64 3400+ with a SATA 80 gig boot drive with 3
partitions and a 3rd IDE HD for dual boot and extra storage with 2
partitions. Each boot partition is about 8.3 gig.

For years I've been making image files with Drive Image 2002 using the
bootup CD and working in the DOS mode. After installing Sonar 6.0, I
made an image file and if I try to restore that image file to the
other HD (IDE) on my dual boot system, always at 76% I get bad cluster
error messages, about 20 of them, followed by a final too many errors
to complete task. Yet if I try to restore any previous images, there
are no errors.

It seems to have something to do with either Sonar 6.0 (which is
unlikely) or 6.0 is installing itself on bad clusters. It's about 253
meg and I have about 1.3 gigs still in free space after the install.

I've done a bunch of testing to see if it's just an anomally. I
checked about 3 or 4 5.2 Sonar images and restored them successfully
to the IDE HD. I've made 3 different 6.0 images and each of them
successfully restores back to the SATA HD, but get errors when
restoring back to the IDE HD.

I restored my last 5.2 Sonar image to my SATA HD and then right away
made a new image and it successfully restored to the IDE HD. I then
installed Sonar 6.0 on the SATA HD and made an image right away and it
wouldn't sucessfully restore to the IDE HD.

My image files are stored on the 3rd partition of my SATA HD and I did
a CHKDSK /R on bootup on it also. I've gotten out of the habit of
running Defrag, since many users now discourage that. I wonder if that
would help in this case. Another thing is the main boot HD is a SATA
and the other one is IDE. Could that make any difference? I've tried 2
different IDE HD's with the same results. (WD 120 and WD 160)

This is baffling, any ideas? Or is it reformat time.

Gerry Peters

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From: Max Arwood on 31 Oct 2006 22:48
You could always try one of the "Norton" type utility type products. You
could run it then uninstall it later. It might fix the problem or it might
make it worse. Either way you will be closer to the answer of how to fix
it.
Max Arwood

"Gerry Peters" <GerryPeters(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
news:rb9fk2phh0rmo3ski2q5censu8lua7smtq(a)4ax.com...
>I think I have some bad clusters on my C drive of my DAW. Using CHKDSK
> /R on bootup, doesn't fix them. Partition Magic 8.1 floppy version
> will check for bad clusters and not find any. Is there another utility
> that will fix them? Or do I need to reformat, repartition, and and
> build the HD back up?
>
> Here's why I think I have some bad clusters.
>
> I have an Athlon 64 3400+ with a SATA 80 gig boot drive with 3
> partitions and a 3rd IDE HD for dual boot and extra storage with 2
> partitions. Each boot partition is about 8.3 gig.
>
> For years I've been making image files with Drive Image 2002 using the
> bootup CD and working in the DOS mode. After installing Sonar 6.0, I
> made an image file and if I try to restore that image file to the
> other HD (IDE) on my dual boot system, always at 76% I get bad cluster
> error messages, about 20 of them, followed by a final too many errors
> to complete task. Yet if I try to restore any previous images, there
> are no errors.
>
> It seems to have something to do with either Sonar 6.0 (which is
> unlikely) or 6.0 is installing itself on bad clusters. It's about 253
> meg and I have about 1.3 gigs still in free space after the install.
>
> I've done a bunch of testing to see if it's just an anomally. I
> checked about 3 or 4 5.2 Sonar images and restored them successfully
> to the IDE HD. I've made 3 different 6.0 images and each of them
> successfully restores back to the SATA HD, but get errors when
> restoring back to the IDE HD.
>
> I restored my last 5.2 Sonar image to my SATA HD and then right away
> made a new image and it successfully restored to the IDE HD. I then
> installed Sonar 6.0 on the SATA HD and made an image right away and it
> wouldn't sucessfully restore to the IDE HD.
>
> My image files are stored on the 3rd partition of my SATA HD and I did
> a CHKDSK /R on bootup on it also. I've gotten out of the habit of
> running Defrag, since many users now discourage that. I wonder if that
> would help in this case. Another thing is the main boot HD is a SATA
> and the other one is IDE. Could that make any difference? I've tried 2
> different IDE HD's with the same results. (WD 120 and WD 160)
>
> This is baffling, any ideas? Or is it reformat time.
>
> Gerry Peters
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>


From: Phoenix on 2 Nov 2006 23:28
This is a longshot, but how big is your swapfile? I encountered problems
with Norton Ghost 2003 when my swapfile hit the 2 GB mark. Now I delete my
swapfile before making an image and all is well (I've restored from one of
those images so far, ditto). DI 2002 may have a similar limitation.
If you happen to have have DI 7 as well, you can run the Recovery
Environment which contains its own version of chkdsk, which I've found to be
more thorough than Windows'.

"Gerry Peters" <GerryPeters(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
news:rb9fk2phh0rmo3ski2q5censu8lua7smtq(a)4ax.com...
>I think I have some bad clusters on my C drive of my DAW. Using CHKDSK
> /R on bootup, doesn't fix them. Partition Magic 8.1 floppy version
> will check for bad clusters and not find any. Is there another utility
> that will fix them? Or do I need to reformat, repartition, and and
> build the HD back up?
>
> Here's why I think I have some bad clusters.
>
> I have an Athlon 64 3400+ with a SATA 80 gig boot drive with 3
> partitions and a 3rd IDE HD for dual boot and extra storage with 2
> partitions. Each boot partition is about 8.3 gig.
>
> For years I've been making image files with Drive Image 2002 using the
> bootup CD and working in the DOS mode. After installing Sonar 6.0, I
> made an image file and if I try to restore that image file to the
> other HD (IDE) on my dual boot system, always at 76% I get bad cluster
> error messages, about 20 of them, followed by a final too many errors
> to complete task. Yet if I try to restore any previous images, there
> are no errors.
>
> It seems to have something to do with either Sonar 6.0 (which is
> unlikely) or 6.0 is installing itself on bad clusters. It's about 253
> meg and I have about 1.3 gigs still in free space after the install.
>
> I've done a bunch of testing to see if it's just an anomally. I
> checked about 3 or 4 5.2 Sonar images and restored them successfully
> to the IDE HD. I've made 3 different 6.0 images and each of them
> successfully restores back to the SATA HD, but get errors when
> restoring back to the IDE HD.
>
> I restored my last 5.2 Sonar image to my SATA HD and then right away
> made a new image and it successfully restored to the IDE HD. I then
> installed Sonar 6.0 on the SATA HD and made an image right away and it
> wouldn't sucessfully restore to the IDE HD.
>
> My image files are stored on the 3rd partition of my SATA HD and I did
> a CHKDSK /R on bootup on it also. I've gotten out of the habit of
> running Defrag, since many users now discourage that. I wonder if that
> would help in this case. Another thing is the main boot HD is a SATA
> and the other one is IDE. Could that make any difference? I've tried 2
> different IDE HD's with the same results. (WD 120 and WD 160)
>
> This is baffling, any ideas? Or is it reformat time.
>
> Gerry Peters
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>


From: Shawn O'Connor on 3 Nov 2006 06:35
If it wasn't for the fact that your Sonar 6.0 image successfully restores
back to the SATA HD, I'd say it was a corrupt backup.

You've tried 2 different IDE HD's with the same results? Both drives have
1.3 gigs of free space? (not very much these days)
Assuming both drives have the same free space, if your 5.2 Sonar image is
smaller than your sonar 6 image, that would explain why you can restore the
5.2 and not the 6.

However, I don't think it's a space issue in the sense that it fills enough
of the
drive to hit bad clusters. Not on 2 different drives.
Unless you're unlucky enough to have two drives with bad clusters in the
same place,
it doesn't make sense that you would get identical behaviors. (but then ,
I've
seen stranger things)

It sounds more like an IDE controller/bad data cable issue, but it seems
that
would show up when scanning for bad clusters.

Maybe it's poorly written software that's making a wild guess as to the
nature of the problem.

Don't you just love puzzles that defy all logic?





"Gerry Peters" <GerryPeters(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
news:rb9fk2phh0rmo3ski2q5censu8lua7smtq(a)4ax.com...
> I think I have some bad clusters on my C drive of my DAW. Using CHKDSK
> /R on bootup, doesn't fix them. Partition Magic 8.1 floppy version
> will check for bad clusters and not find any. Is there another utility
> that will fix them? Or do I need to reformat, repartition, and and
> build the HD back up?
>
> Here's why I think I have some bad clusters.
>
> I have an Athlon 64 3400+ with a SATA 80 gig boot drive with 3
> partitions and a 3rd IDE HD for dual boot and extra storage with 2
> partitions. Each boot partition is about 8.3 gig.
>
> For years I've been making image files with Drive Image 2002 using the
> bootup CD and working in the DOS mode. After installing Sonar 6.0, I
> made an image file and if I try to restore that image file to the
> other HD (IDE) on my dual boot system, always at 76% I get bad cluster
> error messages, about 20 of them, followed by a final too many errors
> to complete task. Yet if I try to restore any previous images, there
> are no errors.
>
> It seems to have something to do with either Sonar 6.0 (which is
> unlikely) or 6.0 is installing itself on bad clusters. It's about 253
> meg and I have about 1.3 gigs still in free space after the install.
>
> I've done a bunch of testing to see if it's just an anomally. I
> checked about 3 or 4 5.2 Sonar images and restored them successfully
> to the IDE HD. I've made 3 different 6.0 images and each of them
> successfully restores back to the SATA HD, but get errors when
> restoring back to the IDE HD.
>
> I restored my last 5.2 Sonar image to my SATA HD and then right away
> made a new image and it successfully restored to the IDE HD. I then
> installed Sonar 6.0 on the SATA HD and made an image right away and it
> wouldn't sucessfully restore to the IDE HD.
>
> My image files are stored on the 3rd partition of my SATA HD and I did
> a CHKDSK /R on bootup on it also. I've gotten out of the habit of
> running Defrag, since many users now discourage that. I wonder if that
> would help in this case. Another thing is the main boot HD is a SATA
> and the other one is IDE. Could that make any difference? I've tried 2
> different IDE HD's with the same results. (WD 120 and WD 160)
>
> This is baffling, any ideas? Or is it reformat time.
>
> Gerry Peters
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>


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