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From: danparker276@yahoo.com on 14 Sep 2006 18:01 I love chicks that can't read. RedGrittyBrick wrote: > danparker276(a)yahoo.com wrote: > > Brian McCauley wrote: > > > >>Michele Dondi wrote: > >> > >> > >>>On 13 Sep 2006 15:31:58 -0700, "danparker276(a)yahoo.com" > >>><danparker276(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Why does everyone have to always say "read the docs". This is > >>> > >>>Because some people tries very hard to keep the docs up to date and > >>>rich and helpful, maybe? Because it is the best way to teach one how > >>>to find quickly help without bothering people with questions that do > >>>not really deserve being asked? > >> > >>That's only part of it. There's also the fact that to an experienced > >>programmer just looking at an inappropriate denormalization is painful. > >>Retyping information that's covered in the standard docs is a > >>denomalization. So even if it weren't for the fact that it's more > >>effort for the person answering and less help to the person asking I'd > >>still be uncomfortable retyping. > > > > > > So if your friend asked you what's on TV tonight (and you know you were > > watching Prison Break), you'd tell him "Look it up in the TV guide". > > It's called being nice. > > How about if some total stranger shouted out "whats on TV tonight" > whilst holding a TV guide in their hands?
From: RedGrittyBrick on 14 Sep 2006 18:14 danparker276(a)yahoo.com wrote: > .NET 2.0 blows I was wondering why you were struggling with perl when you could be dashing off a quick .NET 2.0 replacement. Aren't any of your 9000 MySpace friends any good at .NET 2.0 either? Maybe they can help?
From: RedGrittyBrick on 14 Sep 2006 19:11 danparker276(a)yahoo.com wrote: > I love chicks that can't read. This is where your analogy breaks down. I suspect you can read, at least a little bit. If you're a chick then your name suggests you're not the sort of chick anyone would invite in to watch Prison Break. Q.E.D.
From: Ottis Caw on 14 Sep 2006 22:40 Ala Qumsieh wrote: > danparker276(a)yahoo.com wrote: > > > Oh yeah, and I top-posted on purpose. Everyone on this group is so > > stuck up. .NET 2.0 blows everything away anyway. At least on their > > formus, people from microsoft will answer questions instead of "Look > > at the docs" > > Well, they are being paid by Microsoft to do that. If somebody (for > example, you) pays me, I'll answer too. Otherwise, you don't really > get to complain. > > --Ala A completely false presumption. Most of the people on those forums are in fact people who volunteer their time. The difference is the attitude. Yes, I fully agree docs should be checked and search engines queried, but I got the distinct impression that either there were no docs for this module or they didn't lead to an answer the OP was looking for (I cannot say either way as I am not familiar with this particular module. The biggest problem with this group and others that display the same attitudes, is that many who frequent this group seem to presume that most, shall we say, inexperienced users are automatically clueless. At least this is the common vide I feel from threads like this. Why is it so difficult to give people the benefit of the doubt. Why not offer a little useful knowledge. Pointing to the docs works. The addition of an in-body snippet is even better, as it better serves the archives. You not be paid to help people, but then again, who said anyone here was entitled to payment? Last I checked, that was never the way UseNet worked. Wasn't the main point of mediums like UseNet is for the _free_ exchange of information and knowledge? -- OC
From: Ottis Caw on 14 Sep 2006 22:48
Tad McClellan wrote: > danparker276(a)yahoo.com <danparker276(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> .NET 2.0 blows everything away anyway. At least on their >> formus, people from microsoft will answer questions instead of "Look >> at the docs" > > > That's because Bill's mindless minions _need_ someone to hold their > hand. > > This programming stuff is pretty scary! Honestly, are these types of post _REALLY_ necessary? I mean, really, so not everyone knows as much as you do with computers. Ok, fine. But doesn't mean everyone coming with what may be a simple problem from your perspective, but from someone who is, shall we say, young with Perl and/or the IT scene in general, it just might of been a legitimate question. My point I'm trying to make is perhaps this approach you often take seems take, with posts such as the one I quoted here, seem to serve no one and certainly doesn't further the thread in the right direction. -- OC |