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From: Ron Johnson on 2 Jul 2008 10:40 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/02/08 08:39, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 11:09:18AM +0300, Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu(a)gmail.com> was heard to say: >> Not really. See #201842 and #479620. Unfortunately Daniel Burrows still >> didn't comment on them. Maybe he will show up here? > > The main reason I haven't touched those bugs is that there are many > more important things to work on. This behavior might be annoying when > it hits you, but the files that are wiped out are all cache files that > you can download from the network when your connection is re-established. That does not take into consideration all the people who are still on dial-up. > A secondary reason is that I can't figure out what's going on, because > whenever I try taking my network down and running an update, my package > lists are still around afterwards. I've read over the code and it looks > to me like it only deletes the old package lists when it successfully > downloaded new ones. Until I get more of a clue to go on, this looks to > me like a way to waste a great deal of time. > > I put the apt-get and aptitude code up side-by-side and I can only see > one difference in the conditions they use to determine whether to clean > the lists. I don't see why this would matter (surely pkgAcquire::Run > returns Failure if files can't be downloaded?), but if there's anyone > who *can* reproduce this on demand, it would be interesting to know if > the attached patch helps. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA "Kittens give Morbo gas. In lighter news, the city of New New York is doomed." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkhrkTsACgkQS9HxQb37XmcL/gCgj+/Up41fS5641mBxlQwCr6FA 1FEAoJqyoTr+zKQtwpsrYJ1x2nFN6OCF =AWsZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org
From: Paul Johnson on 2 Jul 2008 15:10 Thank you for trimming unnecessary quotes. On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 09:31 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 07/02/08 08:39, Daniel Burrows wrote: > > The main reason I haven't touched those bugs is that there are many > > more important things to work on. This behavior might be annoying when > > it hits you, but the files that are wiped out are all cache files that > > you can download from the network when your connection is re-established. > > That does not take into consideration all the people who are still > on dial-up. What is the usage case for running an update, then performing an autoclean, while offline? That really smacks of pilot, not program, error... -- Paul Johnson baloo(a)ursine.ca
From: H.S. on 2 Jul 2008 16:00 Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 10:03 -0400, Barclay, Daniel wrote: >> Paul Johnson wrote: >>> On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 16:19 +1000, CaT wrote: >>> >>>> I believe that would be the point the original poster was getting >> at. If >>>> aptitude is really doing that then it is in the wrong. >>> I understood it, but given that this is how apt has always worked >> and is >>> documented to work, why change it now? >> Because it's error-prone. Because it's a poor-quality design. > > Might want to check yourself before you wreck yourself: The same could > be said for your HTML-spewing MUA. > Please, it is pointless to make an ad hominem argument. He does have a valid point if you look at if from software users' point of view. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org
From: Ron Johnson on 7 Jul 2008 18:00 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/07/08 16:28, Barclay, Daniel wrote: > Mark Allums wrote: >> Barclay, Daniel wrote: >> >> > [...] could >> > > be said for your HTML-spewing MUA. >> > >> > What that heck are you talking about? My message was sent in plain >> > text, not >> > HTML. >> >> It's a dual-format message encoded in MIME base64 format. > > Where the heck are you seeing base64 encoding? Here is a screenprint of an Iceweasel View->"Message Source" of your email which asks "Where the heck are you seeing base64 encoding?" http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/Barclay_base64.png - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA "Kittens give Morbo gas. In lighter news, the city of New New York is doomed." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkhykM0ACgkQS9HxQb37XmdD9gCgyo35CqOyBPP+IPY9lIuGf29J f5QAoJzfMzSB+/MY7wHerYFV8sZbdCnm =gJtc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org
From: CaT on 7 Jul 2008 18:30
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 06:12:51PM -0400, Barclay, Daniel wrote: > However, since my MUA is _not_ sending HTML out of my computer (my BCC copy > from my mail server confirms that), my MUA's HTML vs. text settings and my use > of them are not the problem. > > I suspect that a mail server or gateway between here and there is reformatting > my message. >From the HTML in your message: <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=Windows-1252"> <META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 6.5.7652.24"> <TITLE>Re: ??: Stunned by aptitude.</TITLE> Tee-hee. -- "Police noticed some rustling sounds from Linn's bottom area and on closer inspection a roll of cash was found protruding from Linn's anus, the full amount of cash taken in the robbery." - http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/robber-hides-loot-up-his-booty/2008/05/09/1210131248617.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org |