From: Valentin Guillen on

SuSE must be doing things right....the proof is in these newsgroups.

A lot of effort, time, and obviously money is being spent on disparaging
SuSE everywhere. I have a hard time believing that even idiots would be
devoting their time and effort to this effort if there was not income
derived from the endeavor.

Just below this post is an example. About the brain-dead gift. This
newsgroup has been targetted for this type of disparagement. One must ask
the question:

Why do these people feel so threatened by SuSE?

Of course, some of us know the answer. SuSE has the know-how, the income,
and the leverage to actually threaten the status-quo. That's why it has
been targeted. Red Hat was similarly targetted about 3~4 years ago, but
RH shifted its focus to the enterprise, and didn't really target the
desktop in the way SuSE has.

What I say to all of this is: Go SuSE! In spite of the shortcomings that
any release of _any_ OS inevitably has, Suse is obviously stepping on LOTS
of toes. THAT is the proof that it's doing the right thing, hence the
obvious targetting that is happening.

These disparagers won't/can't stop the inevitable.

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vg
From: houghi on
Valentin Guillen wrote:
> Just below this post is an example. About the brain-dead gift. This
> newsgroup has been targetted for this type of disparagement. One must ask
> the question:
>
> Why do these people feel so threatened by SuSE?

I have no idea what you see below your posting. However don't break your
head over it. Just killfile them. Best to killfile the advocacy group,
unless you want to post in there.

SUSE (not SuSE anymore) does a great job, as does, I am sure, Mandrake,
Debian, RedHat, Gentoo and all the other distributions. I am not
interested really what others do. :-)

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From: Robert Hull on
In alt.os.linux.suse, on Mon 26 December 2005 19:32, houghi
<houghi(a)houghi.org.invalid> wrote:

> SUSE (not SuSE anymore)
You say "Tomato" and I say "Tomato"
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From: Tom Horsley on
Valentin Guillen wrote:
> SuSE must be doing things right....the proof is in these newsgroups.

Actually I find SUSE doing things confusing (though not necessarily
wrong). I can't for the life of me understand any of the choices
about what goes on the CD/DVD images and what doesn't. Firefox,
but no Thunderbird? 75dpi X fonts, but no 100dpi X fonts (the old
everyone runs at 800x600 resolution myth perhaps?). Bizzarre library
selections (motif runtime libs, but no motif developement libs -
if the theory is that no one develops in motif anymore, why bother
with the runtime either?).

Yes, it is all available from the FTP install sites, but what the
heck are they filling up the ISO images with that they have to trim
things like this? It is certainly filled up with something - an
install "everything" for suse loads almost twice as much onto the
disk as an install "everything" for fedora, yet so far the NX
client/server software is the only thing I've found pre-installed
on SUSE that led me to say "Great! I don't have to dig this up
on the net, its already here.".

What all those gigabytes of extra stuff are in the distribution,
I've yet to determine :-).
From: houghi on
Robert Hull wrote:
> In alt.os.linux.suse, on Mon 26 December 2005 19:32, houghi
><houghi(a)houghi.org.invalid> wrote:
>
>> SUSE (not SuSE anymore)
> You say "Tomato" and I say "Tomato"

I know. Only the official name now is SUSE. You could call it Windows
and also be wrong. ;-)
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