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From: Richard Storey on 1 Feb 2008 19:51
Well, I've just finished installing and tinkering with openSUSE 10.2,
onto my daughter's 5 yr. old pc. I put an old IDE 40G HD, memory mod,
video card, quiet fans, and CDRW/DVDRW drive in, and installed SUSE. I'm
amazed at how well it runs, and I'm amazed at SUSE. I tried to install
three other distros and all had problems I couldn't tolerate. SUSE
rocks--I'm really impressed.

I put KDE in initially. Can I also install Gnome? Actually, I'm
wondering whether she might want to run an app that's was designed for
Gnome, at some point. Is this what has to be done?

Also, how big a deal is it to upgrade to the next ver., 10.3?

Thanks!
From: Chris Cox on 1 Feb 2008 19:53
Richard Storey wrote:
> Well, I've just finished installing and tinkering with openSUSE 10.2,
> onto my daughter's 5 yr. old pc. I put an old IDE 40G HD, memory mod,
> video card, quiet fans, and CDRW/DVDRW drive in, and installed SUSE. I'm
> amazed at how well it runs, and I'm amazed at SUSE. I tried to install
> three other distros and all had problems I couldn't tolerate. SUSE
> rocks--I'm really impressed.
>
> I put KDE in initially. Can I also install Gnome? Actually, I'm
> wondering whether she might want to run an app that's was designed for
> Gnome, at some point. Is this what has to be done?

Gnome and KDE coexist fine on openSUSE... you can choose your
Session type at the graphical login screen.

>
> Also, how big a deal is it to upgrade to the next ver., 10.3?

In general it works... but it all depends on what you might
have done on your 10.2 system. It used to be a lot easier
when SUSE didn't have all of those 3rd party repos. But give
it a try... it usually works. If not... the alternative
has and always will be doing a full install.
From: Nikos Chantziaras on 1 Feb 2008 20:14
Richard Storey wrote:
> Well, I've just finished installing and tinkering with openSUSE 10.2,
> onto my daughter's 5 yr. old pc. I put an old IDE 40G HD, memory mod,
> video card, quiet fans, and CDRW/DVDRW drive in, and installed SUSE. I'm
> amazed at how well it runs, and I'm amazed at SUSE. I tried to install
> three other distros and all had problems I couldn't tolerate. SUSE
> rocks--I'm really impressed.
>
> I put KDE in initially. Can I also install Gnome? Actually, I'm
> wondering whether she might want to run an app that's was designed for
> Gnome, at some point. Is this what has to be done?

You can run Gnome application in KDE and vice versa. For running in
KDE, I recommend to install the gtk-qt-engine package from the
KDE:Community repository and after that select "Use my current KDE style
for Gnome application" in the KDE control center.


> Also, how big a deal is it to upgrade to the next ver., 10.3?

Since you just installed 10.2, I'd say simply install 10.3 and delete 10.2.
From: David Bolt on 1 Feb 2008 21:17
On Fri, 1 Feb 2008, Chris Cox wrote:-

>Richard Storey wrote:

>> I put KDE in initially. Can I also install Gnome? Actually, I'm
>> wondering whether she might want to run an app that's was designed for
>> Gnome, at some point. Is this what has to be done?

You don't need to have the Gnome desktop installed to run a Gnome
application on a KDE desktop. All that's needed are the base libraries.

>Gnome and KDE coexist fine on openSUSE... you can choose your
>Session type at the graphical login screen.

That's if you don't have auto-login enabled. If you do, you need to log
out to be able to get to the login screen.

>>
>> Also, how big a deal is it to upgrade to the next ver., 10.3?
>
>In general it works... but it all depends on what you might
>have done on your 10.2 system.

Since he's just finished installing 10.2, my guess would be that he's
not done very much to it as yet.

>It used to be a lot easier
>when SUSE didn't have all of those 3rd party repos.

Pre 8.x[0]? :-)

Seriously though, Packman's been around for quite a while, and I'd
hazard a guess that they weren't the only 3rd. party repo. However, I do
know what you mean though. There has been quite an explosion of repos
popping up, especially with the number using the build service.

>But give
>it a try... it usually works. If not... the alternative
>has and always will be doing a full install.

I'm not sure what to suggest. If the OP has some experience, doing the
update should be quite straightforward, and any problems should be quite
easy to sort out. On the other hand, if the OP doesn't have much
experience, I'd suggest starting with a fresh install.

In the case of a fresh installation, and given the drive is a 40GB
device, the /home will be on a separate partition. If there's anything
you want to save, back it up before starting the installation. Also,
unless you're wanting to start completely from fresh, here's a pictorial
step-by-step guide to making sure /home is left intact:

<URL:http://www.davjam.org/mediawiki/index.php/openSUSE:10.3:fresh_install_guide>


[0] 9.3, 9.1 and 9.0 has third-party repos available using the YaST
module "Change Source of Installation". Can't say for certain if 8.x had
the same as I no longer have any of those installed.

Regards,
David Bolt

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