From: Waage on
Hi,

I are looking to purchase some FPGA software in the very
near term for a project utilizing Xilinix's Virtex-4 device.

I are relatively new to FPGA design and would appreciate any comments
from those who have experience with Virtex-4 regarding FPGA synthesis
software
options.

I have looked at Mentor, Synplicity, Synopsis, and Xilinx solutions.
Are there any recommendations for or Against any of the above?
Am I missing a good resonably priceds third party option?

Thanks, Chris

From: Newman on
Some of it depends what size/type device you are using, and how much
money you would like to spend.
The DO-ML403-EDK-ISE seems to be a good deal if the target is a FX12
part
http://www.xilinx.com/xlnx/xebiz/productview.jsp?sGlobalNavPick=&sSecondaryNavPick=&category=-1210985&iLanguageID=1&category=/Xilinx+Products/Hardware+and+Cables/Development+Boards/Virtex-4+Boards

If FPGA's and ASIC's are not in your immediate future, I would pass on
Synopsys.

Xilinx Synthesizer works pretty well, and is bundled with the
implementation tools. The above package comes with a baseX version
that limits the size of the device. The full version costs more.

Synplicity is regarded very well, and has the advantage of being able
to target different vendors as with Synnopsys and Mentor.

Don't really have any data on Mentor.

BTW. I own Synplicity stock.

-Newman

Waage wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I are looking to purchase some FPGA software in the very
> near term for a project utilizing Xilinix's Virtex-4 device.
>
> I are relatively new to FPGA design and would appreciate any comments
> from those who have experience with Virtex-4 regarding FPGA synthesis
> software
> options.
>
> I have looked at Mentor, Synplicity, Synopsis, and Xilinx solutions.
> Are there any recommendations for or Against any of the above?
> Am I missing a good resonably priceds third party option?
>
> Thanks, Chris

From: Newman on
Some of it depends what size/type device you are using, and how much
money you would like to spend.
The DO-ML403-EDK-ISE seems to be a good deal if the target is a FX12
part
http://www.xilinx.com/xlnx/xebiz/productview.jsp?sGlobalNavPick=&sSecondaryNavPick=&category=-1210985&iLanguageID=1&category=/Xilinx+Products/Hardware+and+Cables/Development+Boards/Virtex-4+Boards

If FPGA's and ASIC's are not in your immediate future, I would pass on
Synopsys.

Xilinx Synthesizer works pretty well, and is bundled with the
implementation tools. The above package comes with a baseX version
that limits the size of the device. The full version costs more.

Synplicity is regarded very well, and has the advantage of being able
to target different vendors as with Synnopsys and Mentor.

Don't really have any data on Mentor.

BTW. I own Synplicity stock.

-Newman

Waage wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I are looking to purchase some FPGA software in the very
> near term for a project utilizing Xilinix's Virtex-4 device.
>
> I are relatively new to FPGA design and would appreciate any comments
> from those who have experience with Virtex-4 regarding FPGA synthesis
> software
> options.
>
> I have looked at Mentor, Synplicity, Synopsis, and Xilinx solutions.
> Are there any recommendations for or Against any of the above?
> Am I missing a good resonably priceds third party option?
>
> Thanks, Chris

From: Phil Hays on
"Waage" <chris(a)ednainc.com> wrote:

>I have looked at Mentor, Synplicity, Synopsis, and Xilinx solutions.

I've had good experience with Synplicity. Smaller and faster results,
easier to use, good technical support.

Xilinx does ok. Price is right. Good choice as long as speed and
density are not critical, or if speed and density are so critical as
to force the designer to map all logic by hand.


--
Phil Hays to reply solve: phil_hays at not(coldmail) dot com
If not cold then hot

From: Eric DELAGE on
If you can afford the price of Synplicity, I would definitively
recommend you Synplify Pro for the quality of its results.

The only drawback that I think of is stability. It performs very well
but it might (not so rarely) happen that it crashes w/o any result.
Fortunately, the support is very reactive to provide us w/ new releases
fixing the issues.

Has someone a significant experience w/ Amplify (or the new
SynplifyPremierDP) from Synplicity? What do you think about it?

Eric

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