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From: Waage on 27 Sep 2005 14:56 Hi, I are looking to purchase some FPGA software in the very near term for a project utilizing Xilinix's Virtex-4 device. I are relatively new to FPGA design and would appreciate any comments from those who have experience with Virtex-4 regarding FPGA synthesis software options. I have looked at Mentor, Synplicity, Synopsis, and Xilinx solutions. Are there any recommendations for or Against any of the above? Am I missing a good resonably priceds third party option? Thanks, Chris
From: Newman on 27 Sep 2005 16:59 Some of it depends what size/type device you are using, and how much money you would like to spend. The DO-ML403-EDK-ISE seems to be a good deal if the target is a FX12 part http://www.xilinx.com/xlnx/xebiz/productview.jsp?sGlobalNavPick=&sSecondaryNavPick=&category=-1210985&iLanguageID=1&category=/Xilinx+Products/Hardware+and+Cables/Development+Boards/Virtex-4+Boards If FPGA's and ASIC's are not in your immediate future, I would pass on Synopsys. Xilinx Synthesizer works pretty well, and is bundled with the implementation tools. The above package comes with a baseX version that limits the size of the device. The full version costs more. Synplicity is regarded very well, and has the advantage of being able to target different vendors as with Synnopsys and Mentor. Don't really have any data on Mentor. BTW. I own Synplicity stock. -Newman Waage wrote: > Hi, > > I are looking to purchase some FPGA software in the very > near term for a project utilizing Xilinix's Virtex-4 device. > > I are relatively new to FPGA design and would appreciate any comments > from those who have experience with Virtex-4 regarding FPGA synthesis > software > options. > > I have looked at Mentor, Synplicity, Synopsis, and Xilinx solutions. > Are there any recommendations for or Against any of the above? > Am I missing a good resonably priceds third party option? > > Thanks, Chris
From: Newman on 27 Sep 2005 16:59 Some of it depends what size/type device you are using, and how much money you would like to spend. The DO-ML403-EDK-ISE seems to be a good deal if the target is a FX12 part http://www.xilinx.com/xlnx/xebiz/productview.jsp?sGlobalNavPick=&sSecondaryNavPick=&category=-1210985&iLanguageID=1&category=/Xilinx+Products/Hardware+and+Cables/Development+Boards/Virtex-4+Boards If FPGA's and ASIC's are not in your immediate future, I would pass on Synopsys. Xilinx Synthesizer works pretty well, and is bundled with the implementation tools. The above package comes with a baseX version that limits the size of the device. The full version costs more. Synplicity is regarded very well, and has the advantage of being able to target different vendors as with Synnopsys and Mentor. Don't really have any data on Mentor. BTW. I own Synplicity stock. -Newman Waage wrote: > Hi, > > I are looking to purchase some FPGA software in the very > near term for a project utilizing Xilinix's Virtex-4 device. > > I are relatively new to FPGA design and would appreciate any comments > from those who have experience with Virtex-4 regarding FPGA synthesis > software > options. > > I have looked at Mentor, Synplicity, Synopsis, and Xilinx solutions. > Are there any recommendations for or Against any of the above? > Am I missing a good resonably priceds third party option? > > Thanks, Chris
From: Phil Hays on 27 Sep 2005 23:54 "Waage" <chris(a)ednainc.com> wrote: >I have looked at Mentor, Synplicity, Synopsis, and Xilinx solutions. I've had good experience with Synplicity. Smaller and faster results, easier to use, good technical support. Xilinx does ok. Price is right. Good choice as long as speed and density are not critical, or if speed and density are so critical as to force the designer to map all logic by hand. -- Phil Hays to reply solve: phil_hays at not(coldmail) dot com If not cold then hot
From: Eric DELAGE on 28 Sep 2005 04:01
If you can afford the price of Synplicity, I would definitively recommend you Synplify Pro for the quality of its results. The only drawback that I think of is stability. It performs very well but it might (not so rarely) happen that it crashes w/o any result. Fortunately, the support is very reactive to provide us w/ new releases fixing the issues. Has someone a significant experience w/ Amplify (or the new SynplifyPremierDP) from Synplicity? What do you think about it? Eric |