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From: mark carter on 12 Jan 2008 14:36 My brain hurts! So many options, so many potential pitfalls. I'm thinking of getting a Dell Vostro slimline tower, install Ubuntu to run headless, and turn it into a backup server/webserver and PVR. My TV will be plugged into the back of it (I'm thinking via an S-video to SCART converter). My first question is, and this is going to sound really stupid: are all PCI slots the same standard height at the back? I've been hearing about "half-height" PCI cards, so I want to make sure that there are no gotchas trying to install PCI cards in slimline towers. Next up: TV tuners. I live in the UK. I can currently only receive analog signals, and me and my dad are a bit confused about what's going to happen when the UK does the digital switchover. I must be capable of receiving analog, but if I can buy something that is compatible with analog and digital, that'd be great. I want to be able to watch TV and record a different program at the same time. I also want a remote control with it. What would also be nice is if I could record the signals off my dad's video recorder, which outputs using A/V jacks (unless I'm wrong, of course). What should I buy? Thanks for any help that you can offer.
From: Darren Salt on 12 Jan 2008 19:45 I demand that mark carter may or may not have written... [snip] > Next up: TV tuners. I live in the UK. I can currently only receive analog > signals, and me and my dad are a bit confused about what's going to happen > when the UK does the digital switchover. I must be capable of receiving > analog, Analogue, surely. ;-) > but if I can buy something that is compatible with analog and digital, > that'd be great. http://linuxtv.org/wiki/ http://linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/ uk.comp.os.linux ... It's probably best to forget about analogue unless you want to transfer the content of video tapes. (Admittedly, the analogue switch-off is 4� years away where I am, but that hasn't stopped me from ignoring analogue.) I use two Nova-Ts (Conexant chipset) and, sometimes, a Nova-T Stick. > I want to be able to watch TV and record a different program Programme. Are you _sure_ that you're in the UK? ;-) Anyway, watching one channel and recording from another works even with a single tuner (such as each device that I have has), so long as they're both on the same frequency. If you want to use both digital and analogue at the same time, two cards *may* be required. If you want to, for example, watch BBC3 and record from ITV3, you'll need two tuners. > at the same time. I also want a remote control with it. Many DVB devices have bundled remote controls; you shouldn't have a problem there. > What would also be nice is if I could record the signals off my dad's video > recorder, which outputs using A/V jacks (unless I'm wrong, of course). A stand-alone DVD video recorder is a reasonable option for this. You can use a program such as dvdrip to copy the video data from the disc. > What should I buy? For DVB-T alone, my choice would currently be a pair of Nova-T PCI cards or a Nova-T 500; for the latter, though, you should currently compile drivers from the v4l-dvb repository or wait for Linux kernel 2.6.24 (or use an -rc kernel). For analogue, don't ask me... -- | Darren Salt | linux or ds at | nr. Ashington, | Toon | RISC OS, Linux | youmustbejoking,demon,co,uk | Northumberland | Army | + Buy less and make it last longer. INDUSTRY CAUSES GLOBAL WARMING. Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes clear to the bone.
From: mark carter on 12 Jan 2008 20:49 Darren Salt wrote: > I demand that mark carter may or may not have written... > > [snip] >> Next up: TV tuners. I live in the UK. I can currently only receive analog >> signals, and me and my dad are a bit confused about what's going to happen >> when the UK does the digital switchover. I must be capable of receiving >> analog, > > Analogue, surely. ;-) I tend to Americanise things :( But don't worry, I still have a roast on Sunday. > >> but if I can buy something that is compatible with analog and digital, >> that'd be great. > > http://linuxtv.org/wiki/ > http://linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/ > uk.comp.os.linux ... > > It's probably best to forget about analogue unless you want to transfer the > content of video tapes. (Admittedly, the analogue switch-off is 4� years away > where I am, but that hasn't stopped me from ignoring analogue.) Well, we can only get analogue just now. We tried messing around with digital a couple of years ago, and it didn't work. Our plan is for dad and I to worry about it when the time comes. If plan it could be called. > Anyway, watching one channel and recording from another works even with a > single tuner (such as each device that I have has), so long as they're both > on the same frequency. You mean *exactly* the same? I don't think I can record BBC1 but watch BBC2. I don't have much call for recording something that I'm actually watching. Maybe some people do, but it sounds a bit odd to me ;) > If you want to use both digital and analogue at the same time, two cards > *may* be required. I wont want to do both at the same time. > A stand-alone DVD video recorder is a reasonable option for this. You can use > a program such as dvdrip to copy the video data from the disc. Thanks for the tip!
From: Måns Rullgård on 13 Jan 2008 07:39 mark carter <me(a)privacy.net> writes: > Darren Salt wrote: >> Anyway, watching one channel and recording from another works even with a >> single tuner (such as each device that I have has), so long as they're both >> on the same frequency. > > You mean *exactly* the same? I don't think I can record BBC1 but watch > BBC2. Most of the BBC channels (all but BBC4) use the same frequency on Freeview, so you can watch/record any combination of them at the same time. > I don't have much call for recording something that I'm actually > watching. Maybe some people do, but it sounds a bit odd to me ;) Do you ever watch a recording twice? -- M�ns Rullg�rd mans(a)mansr.com
From: Jack Snodgrass on 13 Jan 2008 09:08
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:36:07 +0000, mark carter wrote: > My brain hurts! So many options, so many potential pitfalls. > .... snipped... > My first question is, and this is going to sound really stupid: are all > PCI slots the same standard height at the back? I've been hearing about > "half-height" PCI cards, so I want to make sure that there are no > gotchas trying to install PCI cards in slimline towers. > There are 'short', 'half-height' PCI cards are are only 2"-ish tall. They have a 'stubby' looking 'L' bracket that is 2.5" tall-ish compared to a standard PCI 'L' bracket that is 4.75" tall. Some times the box will contain both the short and standard 'L' bracket and you can put either one on one of those half-height cards. ....now some 'slim-line' cases include a 'riser card that has you mount a standard pci card side-wise in the case... so they would use a standard pci card... some want you to use these new, half-height cards... it just depends on the case... jack ....snipped.... > > Thanks for any help that you can offer. -- D.A.M. - Mothers Against Dyslexia see http://www.jacksnodgrass.com for my contact info. jack - Grapevine/Richardson |