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From: Peter Niemayer on 27 Jun 2008 12:10
George Peter Staplin wrote:
> Over the years I've noticed that unfilled jobs are available for
> experienced Tcl programmers with B.S. and doctorate degrees in computer
> science.

Being one of those who (still) search for experienced Tcl programmers (see:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/58acfa71baa7ab69/76020a1f2dfc6d55 )
I can say that our job advertisement asked for a scientific degree _or_
equivalent job experience.

And btw., as we haven't filled the open position in Germany, yet, we
are considering to look out for somebody with the same qualification
to work in our subsidiary in New York.

> I'm wondering how important the degree really is.

It's not the degree that is important, but the expectation that you
can give the employee a requirements specification containing mathematical
functions or scientific language and the person will be able to understand
that and develop an appropriate implementation concept and finally working
software from it. It is simply more probable to find this skill among
graduated people, and since showing someone the ropes is expensive both
in time and money, recruiters like to enhance their chances...


> I read something years ago about a sort of scam some companies were
> running. They would purposely post a job application that was
> impossible to fill (requiring a doctorate or masters) with experience in
> a rare subject, in order to recruit someone from a foreign country, and
> pay them half. Is this still going on?

Sounds unlikely - if a company intends to save money by hiring (cheaper)
foreign labourers, it will probably do so without publishing fake
advertisements, first.


> Do I have a good chance of making a living as a programmer/engineer
> without a degree?

Definitely, as long as your expertise is good enough without it, and
your income expectations are realistic... :-)

Regards,

Peter Niemayer
From: USCode on 27 Jun 2008 13:45
Peter Niemayer wrote:
>
> Being one of those who (still) search for experienced Tcl programmers (see:
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/58acfa71baa7ab69/76020a1f2dfc6d55
> )
> I can say that our job advertisement asked for a scientific degree _or_
> equivalent job experience.
>
> And btw., as we haven't filled the open position in Germany, yet, we
> are considering to look out for somebody with the same qualification
> to work in our subsidiary in New York.
>
I don't know if he'd consider moving to NY or would be interested in
this particular position but Bryan Oakley has posted here recently that
he is looking for a new Tcl position and Bryan certainly is a very
experienced Tcl/Tk developer. He also is very helpful here in this
newsgroup.
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