From: Sue Morton on
OK what kind of tomfoolery is going on here? "UnderGlass_5" tags show it's
mix 7? Hmmm sandbagging again Russ? :-)

I like UnderGlass_8 better. For one thing, I can make out the atrocious
lyrics, I couldn't really understand much in the mix 5/7 version. Mix 8
also sounds much more techo and less Manheim Steamrollerish than mix 5/7 :-)

OK I'm done throwing the tomatoes you were waiting for!!! LOL Seriously, I
did enjoy this tune! Did you guys play anything together, "live", at your
reunion?
--
Sue Morton

Elmer Tiberius Fudd wrote:
> <originally posted in the coffeehouse. Posting here as the comments
> were surprisingly positive. Now watching for hurled rotten garbage.
> =;) >
>
> Alright, I have another blast from my past. Recently, I was in NC
> for a 25 year "reunion" of a band I was in back then and one of my
> old friends asked about my proto-techno song "Under Glass". I had
> dubbed my 1986 4- track recording of the song to the PC some time
> ago, so I dropped the tracks into SONAR 7 and started remixing it.
> Other than a Roland TR-606 bass drum loop that I made with a real
> TR-606, everything is from the original 4-track. Pro-One for the
> bass synth/sequence, JX3P for the strings, Mirage for guitar
> crunches, TR-606 drums and JX3P and CZ-101 "bells" and solo (which
> will prove beyond a doubt, I never was or will be polymod). Used
> Sound Forge for the reverse reverb bits.
>
> http://www.aloha.net/~rbenson/UnderGlass_5.mp3
>
> **Warning**: this is from the days with TR-606 triggering the
> Pro-One and the JX3P with gates! Very repetitive. MIDI only used
> for layering sounds. Also, the lyrics are particularly atrocious.
> Let the tomatoes fly!
>
> <update> I have since made a version without the strings by looping
> the bass sequence where the strings weren't. That version is at
> http://www.aloha.net/~rbenson/UnderGlass_8.mp3 This fades as the solo
> starts, so it's not too big. I like the emptiness without the
> strings and the reverse bits stand out better.
>
> Russ
>
> PS BIG hat tip to Harry for his suggestions. Ben too.


From: Ben Goldman on
Elmer Tiberius Fudd wrote:
> <originally posted in the coffeehouse. Posting here as the comments were
> surprisingly positive. Now watching for hurled rotten garbage. =;) >
>
> Alright, I have another blast from my past. Recently, I was in NC for a
> 25 year "reunion" of a band I was in back then and one of my old friends
> asked about my proto-techno song "Under Glass". I had dubbed my 1986 4-
> track recording of the song to the PC some time ago, so I dropped the
> tracks into SONAR 7 and started remixing it. Other than a Roland TR-606
> bass drum loop that I made with a real TR-606, everything is from the
> original 4-track. Pro-One for the bass synth/sequence, JX3P for the
> strings, Mirage for guitar crunches, TR-606 drums and JX3P and CZ-101
> "bells" and solo (which will prove beyond a doubt, I never was or will be
> polymod). Used Sound Forge for the reverse reverb bits.
>
> http://www.aloha.net/~rbenson/UnderGlass_5.mp3
>
> **Warning**: this is from the days with TR-606 triggering the Pro-One and
> the JX3P with gates! Very repetitive. MIDI only used for layering
> sounds. Also, the lyrics are particularly atrocious. Let the tomatoes
> fly!
>
> <update> I have since made a version without the strings by looping the
> bass sequence where the strings weren't. That version is at
> http://www.aloha.net/~rbenson/UnderGlass_8.mp3 This fades as the solo
> starts, so it's not too big. I like the emptiness without the strings and
> the reverse bits stand out better.
>
> Russ
>
> PS BIG hat tip to Harry for his suggestions. Ben too.
>

De nada. Version 7 is the best IMO.

--
Cheers,
Ben
From: Max Arwood on
Well I liked it. Just starting the new version. I like it even more than
the first one. Like Sue, I did not even understand the words in the other
version.
Max Arwood

"Elmer Tiberius Fudd" <ElmertSTUPIDITYfudd(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9A237AB732096notverybrightguy(a)198.186.192.200...
> <originally posted in the coffeehouse. Posting here as the comments were
> surprisingly positive. Now watching for hurled rotten garbage. =;) >
>
> Alright, I have another blast from my past. Recently, I was in NC for a
> 25 year "reunion" of a band I was in back then and one of my old friends
> asked about my proto-techno song "Under Glass". I had dubbed my 1986 4-
> track recording of the song to the PC some time ago, so I dropped the
> tracks into SONAR 7 and started remixing it. Other than a Roland TR-606
> bass drum loop that I made with a real TR-606, everything is from the
> original 4-track. Pro-One for the bass synth/sequence, JX3P for the
> strings, Mirage for guitar crunches, TR-606 drums and JX3P and CZ-101
> "bells" and solo (which will prove beyond a doubt, I never was or will be
> polymod). Used Sound Forge for the reverse reverb bits.
>
> http://www.aloha.net/~rbenson/UnderGlass_5.mp3
>
> **Warning**: this is from the days with TR-606 triggering the Pro-One and
> the JX3P with gates! Very repetitive. MIDI only used for layering
> sounds. Also, the lyrics are particularly atrocious. Let the tomatoes
> fly!
>
> <update> I have since made a version without the strings by looping the
> bass sequence where the strings weren't. That version is at
> http://www.aloha.net/~rbenson/UnderGlass_8.mp3 This fades as the solo
> starts, so it's not too big. I like the emptiness without the strings and
> the reverse bits stand out better.
>
> Russ
>
> PS BIG hat tip to Harry for his suggestions. Ben too.
>
> --
> ___ __ __ __ __ ___ ___
> ( \ ( )( \/ ) ___ ( )( _)( \
> ) ) ) )( ) ( (___) __)( ) _) ) ) )
> (___/ (__)(_/\/\_) (___/ (___)(___/
>
> Elmer Tiberius Fudd <--He's dim, Jed...PhD of SUYMF!
> remove STUPIDITY to reply, however, STUPIDITY was engaged when send button
> was pressed


From: Sue Morton on
You're right, mix 8 can be a bit 'empty' or 'thin' in places, I like your
idea to adapt the strings approach to fill the void but not cover up those
atrocious lyrics. :-) Let's hear mix 9.
--
Sue Morton

Elmer Tiberius Fudd wrote:
> I did put "techno" in quotes for a reason. =;) I think the strings
> need to be a lot thinner to leave some room for the vocals-as
> atrocious as the lyrics are-and other bits, but it feels a bit empty
> to me-I usually love to fill up space. Maybe bring them in and out
> as needed. Mix 7 is really a recreation, with some extras, of the
> old mixdown of the 4-track, while mix 8 is the first of re-thinking
> the whole thing with modern tech-Audio Snap and looping make it a lot
> easier.


From: Max Arwood on
Well, that 's the line I liked! I thought it was title oriented.
Max Arwood

"Elmer Tiberius Fudd" <ElmertSTUPIDITYfudd(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Max Arwood" <marwoodNOSPAM(a)hnb.com> set phasers on Delicious Ranch
> Dressing
> and tossed news:Nxkij.14010$6%.5614(a)nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com:
>
>> Well I liked it. Just starting the new version. I like it even more
>> than
>> the first one. Like Sue, I did not even understand the words in the
>> other
>> version.
>
> Then you were lucky! =;) One of the lines is "the pheasant is served,
> under glass..." which is actually kinda clever. I think that was where
> the
> name came from and the rest was improvised from there. In any event, I
> doubt
> lyricist will never be on my resume.
>
> --
> ___ __ __ __ __ ___ ___
> ( \ ( )( \/ ) ___ ( )( _)( \
> ) ) ) )( ) ( (___) __)( ) _) ) ) )
> (___/ (__)(_/\/\_) (___/ (___)(___/
>
> Elmer Tiberius Fudd <--He's dim, Jed...Lyricist of SUYMF!
> remove STUPIDITY to reply, however, STUPIDITY was engaged when send button
> was pressed


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