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From: Stretch65 on 29 Dec 2007 11:10
Hi everyone,

Recently I bought my first tablet computer (a Sahara slate (model i440D))
and I noticed while trying to select text in a large number of programs (text
editors, web browsers, word processors, etc.), that when I drag the pen over
some text, only words are selected - not text fragments.

Say, for example, you have the following line of text in a text editor such
as PSPad or UltraEdit:

"I'm having fun!"

If I drag the pen over any part of the word "having", the entire word is
immediately selected. If I try to select just the letters "av", the entire
word "having" is STILL selected. In other words, I can't seem to select any
fragment of text that the system doesn't consider to be a 'word'.

Now, as I said at the beginning, this 'functionality' appears to work in
many different programs. There is one text editor program which allows me
to select any text fragments I want - "TextPad" - but I don't know why it
works in this program. Needless to say, I'm currently using "TextPad" for
all my text editing because it allows this.

So I guess my question is - has anyone else encountered this problem? And
is there any way around it?

Any help most appreciated.


Thanks.

From: Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev] on 29 Dec 2007 12:46
>> has anyone else encountered this problem? <<

Just verified that this is not happening on my Fuji, so, would suspect
that the taps are possibly being "read" as double taps or possibly
something such as a <tap/hold>

My first thought would be to assure that your taps are not
"tentative..." and suggest experimenting with faster dragging
immediately after the insertion cursor appears.

Make sure that you don't have the tip <shift> or other keys depressed as
that is a factor as well.

What pen tech does the Sahara use? The Fuji has Wacom so, if your's is
different, such as touch, there may be an interface difference.

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
From: Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev] on 29 Dec 2007 13:01
Also, check your pen settings including the interval settings.

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
From: Invalid on 29 Dec 2007 19:04
In message <63258B3F-FE1A-43EC-8B6E-F2259E927F57(a)microsoft.com>,
Stretch65 <Stretch65(a)discussions.microsoft.com> writes
>Hi everyone,
>
>Recently I bought my first tablet computer (a Sahara slate (model i440D))
>and I noticed while trying to select text in a large number of programs (text
>editors, web browsers, word processors, etc.), that when I drag the pen over
>some text, only words are selected - not text fragments.
>
>Say, for example, you have the following line of text in a text editor such
>as PSPad or UltraEdit:
>
>"I'm having fun!"
>
>If I drag the pen over any part of the word "having", the entire word is
>immediately selected. If I try to select just the letters "av", the entire
>word "having" is STILL selected. In other words, I can't seem to select any
>fragment of text that the system doesn't consider to be a 'word'.
>
>Now, as I said at the beginning, this 'functionality' appears to work in
>many different programs. There is one text editor program which allows me
>to select any text fragments I want - "TextPad" - but I don't know why it
>works in this program. Needless to say, I'm currently using "TextPad" for
>all my text editing because it allows this.
>
>So I guess my question is - has anyone else encountered this problem? And
>is there any way around it?
>
>Any help most appreciated.
>
>
>Thanks.
>
I don't know for certain, but my guess would be that this behaviour is a
consequence of the faulty(?) editor's all using the Microsoft Rich Text
editor library. TextPad does not (AFAIK) use the Rich Text DLL, and
consequently it does not exhibit the fault/feature!

In MS Word under Options/Edit there is a checkbox that enables "When
selecting, automatically select entire word". I suspect that the Rich
Text editor library has something like this option enabled. I have no
idea how to turn it off in the Rich Text library. Have any of the
editors got an appropriate option?

There is probably a registry key involved, but Rich Text is not well
documented by Microsoft. You could try raising a fault with them.

Most programs that use the Rich Text library simply hand over a buffer
to the Rich text DLL, and it deals with the edit process. The
interaction between the Rich Text Library and the Tablet TIP is
different on Vista than on XP. Programs that behave one way on XP do
something different on XP - but the interface is not well documented.

If you get any joy, please let us know

--
Peter R Cook
From: Stretch65 on 30 Dec 2007 00:18
Thanks Peter. I think you've identified the most likely cause. I'll speak
to Microsoft. Incidentally, I've also noticed problems using JEdit (a
Java-based text editor) - either my left clicks are ignored, or they're
interpreted as double clicks. JEdit also suffers from the word selection
problem. Apart from this, I haven't had ANY other problems using any other
software, so I don't think my pen is malfunctioning.


"Invalid" wrote:

> In message <63258B3F-FE1A-43EC-8B6E-F2259E927F57(a)microsoft.com>,
> Stretch65 <Stretch65(a)discussions.microsoft.com> writes
> >Hi everyone,
> >
> >Recently I bought my first tablet computer (a Sahara slate (model i440D))
> >and I noticed while trying to select text in a large number of programs (text
> >editors, web browsers, word processors, etc.), that when I drag the pen over
> >some text, only words are selected - not text fragments.
> >
> >Say, for example, you have the following line of text in a text editor such
> >as PSPad or UltraEdit:
> >
> >"I'm having fun!"
> >
> >If I drag the pen over any part of the word "having", the entire word is
> >immediately selected. If I try to select just the letters "av", the entire
> >word "having" is STILL selected. In other words, I can't seem to select any
> >fragment of text that the system doesn't consider to be a 'word'.
> >
> >Now, as I said at the beginning, this 'functionality' appears to work in
> >many different programs. There is one text editor program which allows me
> >to select any text fragments I want - "TextPad" - but I don't know why it
> >works in this program. Needless to say, I'm currently using "TextPad" for
> >all my text editing because it allows this.
> >
> >So I guess my question is - has anyone else encountered this problem? And
> >is there any way around it?
> >
> >Any help most appreciated.
> >
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> I don't know for certain, but my guess would be that this behaviour is a
> consequence of the faulty(?) editor's all using the Microsoft Rich Text
> editor library. TextPad does not (AFAIK) use the Rich Text DLL, and
> consequently it does not exhibit the fault/feature!
>
> In MS Word under Options/Edit there is a checkbox that enables "When
> selecting, automatically select entire word". I suspect that the Rich
> Text editor library has something like this option enabled. I have no
> idea how to turn it off in the Rich Text library. Have any of the
> editors got an appropriate option?
>
> There is probably a registry key involved, but Rich Text is not well
> documented by Microsoft. You could try raising a fault with them.
>
> Most programs that use the Rich Text library simply hand over a buffer
> to the Rich text DLL, and it deals with the edit process. The
> interaction between the Rich Text Library and the Tablet TIP is
> different on Vista than on XP. Programs that behave one way on XP do
> something different on XP - but the interface is not well documented.
>
> If you get any joy, please let us know
>
> --
> Peter R Cook
>
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