From: HawkEye on
Can anyone help ? I need to update KDE, when I last did this I installed
Thacs rpms. These are now in a subfolder and don't show in rpmdrake or as a
urpmi source (Thacs site does just not the subfolder fopr kde 3.3.2)

I don't really want to have to manually download every file (and don't
remember how I did it originally) so can anyone give me a pointer or two on
how to do this ?

BTW the reason for the upgrade is because the arts daemon is partially
broken and to upgrade this file to a hopefully fully working one requires a
lot of the newer KDE.

Thanks for any help.

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From: Ron Venema on
HawkEye wrote:
> Can anyone help ? I need to update KDE, when I last did this I installed
> Thacs rpms. These are now in a subfolder and don't show in rpmdrake or
> as a urpmi source (Thacs site does just not the subfolder fopr kde 3.3.2)
>
> I don't really want to have to manually download every file (and don't
> remember how I did it originally) so can anyone give me a pointer or two
> on how to do this ?
>
> BTW the reason for the upgrade is because the arts daemon is partially
> broken and to upgrade this file to a hopefully fully working one
> requires a lot of the newer KDE.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
I would suggest installing Kde from Mandrake 10.2 beta. It seems to be
pretty stable.
From: Gza on
Maybe, but I think, the 10.2 beta will update the system (gcc, perl etc)
, and it'd be dangerous, not?

The thac's rpms (when you add the full thac's repo) provides the latest
KDE packages (urpmi.addmedia thacs as you can see on the web site)

Gza

Mon, 07 Feb 2005 19:53:25 -0600 keltezýssel Ron Venema azt ýrta:

>>
> I would suggest installing Kde from Mandrake 10.2 beta. It seems to be
> pretty stable.

From: Amund on
HawkEye wrote:

> Can anyone help ? I need to update KDE, when I last did this I installed
> Thacs rpms. These are now in a subfolder and don't show in rpmdrake or as
> a urpmi source (Thacs site does just not the subfolder fopr kde 3.3.2)
>
> I don't really want to have to manually download every file (and don't
> remember how I did it originally) so can anyone give me a pointer or two
> on how to do this ?
>
> BTW the reason for the upgrade is because the arts daemon is partially
> broken and to upgrade this file to a hopefully fully working one requires
> a lot of the newer KDE.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>

You have to find any mirror of Thacs, and configure your system to use this
media with urpmi.addmedia command as described on the web pages. Like this:

urpmi.addmedia thacs.rpms
http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/thac/10.1/RPMS with hdlist.cz

I think some of the packages from Thacs depends on packages from plf and
from the official mandrake "updates", and you should have installation
media for "main" and "contrib". You can generate the urpmi.addmedia string
here: http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/.
To get a list of the medias you have innstalled, just run mandrake.update,
or you can see it in drakconf.

Now you can use urpmi or rpmdrake to install packages.

Thacs is updated daily with new packages for the current Mandrake release.
To get an updates list of the packages:

urpmi.update thacs.rpms

And you can run urpmi.update for your plf and updates medias as well. To get
updates lists for all of your medias:
urpmi.update -a

To upgrade kde, you can try to upgrade any packages like this:

urpmi kdebase

Or you can just try to upgrade everything:

urpmi --auto-select

Thacs provides kde 3.3.2 for Mandrake 10.1.
You might get problems with dependendies when you upgrade kde from Thacs. I
had to remove some packages like korganizer, before i was able to run urpmi
--auto-select.
You can remove packages with urpme. Like this:
urpme korganizer

Just remember witch packages you have removed. When you have updated KDE,
you can reinstall them with urpmi. Like this:
urpmi korganizer

It might be very tricky to manage the dependendies the first time you run
"urpmi --auto-select", after adding the Thacs media. But later, when you
run daily updates with urpmi.update and urpmi --auto-select, it seems to be
no problem.


It seems like you can find KDE 3.3.1 under the Mandrake mirrors, in the
devel/testing/Mandrakeclub/10.1/i586 directory. I have not tried it. But i
guess you can install the media this way:
urpmi.addmedia ClubTesting
ftp://ftp.uninett.no/linux/Mandrakelinux/devel/testing/Mandrakeclub/10.1/i586
with hdlist.cz

Amund



From: DanielEKFA on
Ron Venema wrote:

> HawkEye wrote:
>> Can anyone help ? I need to update KDE, when I last did this I installed
>> Thacs rpms. These are now in a subfolder and don't show in rpmdrake or
>> as a urpmi source (Thacs site does just not the subfolder fopr kde 3.3.2)
>>
>> I don't really want to have to manually download every file (and don't
>> remember how I did it originally) so can anyone give me a pointer or two
>> on how to do this ?
>>
>> BTW the reason for the upgrade is because the arts daemon is partially
>> broken and to upgrade this file to a hopefully fully working one
>> requires a lot of the newer KDE.
>>
>> Thanks for any help.
>>
> I would suggest installing Kde from Mandrake 10.2 beta. It seems to be
> pretty stable.

I agree, it's much more stable than the 3.2.3 shipped with 10.1. The Thac
RPMs have the same issues the MDK 3.2.3 ones before updating do. And to
Gza, no it doesn't upgrade anything (or very little) other than KDE itself.
The rest of your system will stay 10.1. I'd recommend anyone to use the
3.3.2 KDE from Cooker. Very good. I'm wondering if they're planning on not
letting it out as an update to 10.1 but wait for 10.2, because the way the
last ten or so 3.3.2 Cooker versions hav been running for quite some time
(very very stable) it doesn't really make any sense that it hasn't made it
to the update pool yet. My two eurocents anyway ;)


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