The KB893357 patch
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From: d28 on 6 Jun 2005 14:01 Microsoft says this about the KB893357 patch. "In order to take advantage of WPA2, users will also need a wireless LAN that includes the new standard and a Wi-Fi network adapter with the processing power to handle AES encryption, Athwal says. Many of the wireless LAN access points and client adapters being sold today can use WPA2 and come with add-on software for client devices." So the question is, which adapters have the "processing power"? Most if not all adapters on the shelf say they support WPA security. But that isn't true if one is looking for AES support. I installed this patch and then installed the Netgear WG511v2 PCMCIA adapter and the best I could get was TKIP while my router WRT54Gv3 supports both TKIP and AES. So what is the change this patch suppose to bring? Is it to replace WPA drivers shipped with WPA capable cards?
From: Jerry Peterson[MSFT] on 6 Jun 2005 16:56 Those neat stickers that say "WiFi CERTIFIED" wireless products are issued to products that complete testing with the WiFi Alliance. The Microsoft WPA2 client is used by the WiFi Alliance in their testing to ensure that products meet a quality standard. The reason why I am mentioning this is that they have a searchable database on their website. You can get a comprehensive list of products that have completed testing and more importantly you may search specifically for WPA2-capable devices. http://www.wifialliance.com/OpenSection/certified_products.asp?TID=2 To secure your network with WPA2 - Personal, you will need to have WPA2 capable firmware on your access point, and the wireless adapter will need a WPA2 capable driver. A quick search of the website shows that Netgear has completed testing with just three devices and those do not include the WG511 or the WRT54G. If a device was capable of AES encryption then it is possible that there will be an update sometime this year. Devices that did not include AES capablity usually have hardware limitations that will prevent them from WPA2 capability. There are exceptions to this rule of course. Netgear would have to disclose which devices they have driver updates planned for. -- Jerry Peterson Windows Network Services - Wireless This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. "d28" <kevindu28(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1118080877.850463.194900(a)g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Microsoft says this about the KB893357 patch. > > "In order to take advantage of WPA2, users will also need a wireless > LAN that includes the new standard and a Wi-Fi network adapter with the > processing power to handle AES encryption, Athwal says. > Many of the wireless LAN access points and client adapters being sold > today can use WPA2 and come with add-on software for client devices." > > So the question is, which adapters have the "processing power"? Most > if not all adapters on the shelf say they support WPA security. But > that isn't true if one is looking for AES support. I installed this > patch and then installed the Netgear WG511v2 PCMCIA adapter and the > best I could get was TKIP while my router WRT54Gv3 supports both TKIP > and AES. > > So what is the change this patch suppose to bring? Is it to replace > WPA drivers shipped with WPA capable cards? >
From: d28 on 6 Jun 2005 21:58 I've been to that database. The information is suspect. I'm not trying to say it's all bad but. The WG511-F v3.0 (which I believe is also called version 1) card is not listed as being capable of supporting WPA2 but it does because that's what my laptop has now. So when I discovered that the WG511v2 didn't work with WPA2 I was disappointed. Mainly because the WPA driver didn't come with the card. But more so when Netgear support team told me that the card only does WPA-TKIP. A waste of time and money. I wish the packaging was more specific as to what the capabilities of these cards were. Even so, I don't see any change as discribe by Microsoft after installing this patch. One was that when I select "View Wireless Networks", that the WPA2 capable networks will indicate "WPA2". I know for a fact that my WRT54G is configured as a WPA2 network but it not showing up that way. Oh, btw I think you searched on internal cards. The WG511 is an external PCMCIA card. The Linksys WRT54G is also WPA2 capable according to the database (1st in the search results)
From: Jerry Peterson[MSFT] on 7 Jun 2005 16:35 What is listed in the database are the devices that have completed interoperability testing with the standards group. If a device is not listed, then the device has not been submitted for testing, is still in testing, or has failed testing. Does your model of WRT54G include a feature called Speedbooster? Is it a WRT54GS? -- Jerry Peterson Windows Network Services - Wireless This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. "d28" <kevindu28(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1118109505.249500.226690(a)g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I've been to that database. The information is suspect. I'm not > trying to say it's all bad but. The WG511-F v3.0 (which I believe is > also called version 1) card is not listed as being capable of > supporting WPA2 but it does because that's what my laptop has now. So > when I discovered that the WG511v2 didn't work with WPA2 I was > disappointed. Mainly because the WPA driver didn't come with the card. > But more so when Netgear support team told me that the card only does > WPA-TKIP. A waste of time and money. I wish the packaging was more > specific as to what the capabilities of these cards were. > > Even so, I don't see any change as discribe by Microsoft after > installing this patch. One was that when I select "View Wireless > Networks", that the WPA2 capable networks will indicate "WPA2". I know > for a fact that my WRT54G is configured as a WPA2 network but it not > showing up that way. > > Oh, btw I think you searched on internal cards. The WG511 is an > external PCMCIA card. The Linksys WRT54G is also WPA2 capable according > to the database (1st in the search results) >
From: d28 on 7 Jun 2005 19:27 No, my WRT54G is not the speedbooster model and has a WPA/WPA2 cert date of 1/5/2005 according to the database. Let me re-phrase what I said about the WG511-F(v3.0) card (aka version 1). It is listed in the database search results but when you click on the link to display the cert information WPA2 is not listed. The cert date for the WG511-F (v3.0) is 7/1/2004 and for the WG511v2 it's 9/23/2004 according to the database. I also sent a message to the folks at wifi.org about what appears to be a discrepency on the WAG511 PCMCIA card (the supposed only WPA2 Netgear PCMCIA adapter). There are 3 cert dates. 1st says: 3/5/2004 WPA (Pers/Enter), EAP-TLS 2nd says: 1/26/2005 WPA, WPA2 (Pers/Enter), EAP-TLS 3rd says: 1/27/2005 WPA (Pers/Enter), EAP-TLS, WMM The question is, did Netgear decertify the cards capabilties for WPA2? That would make no sense. So it seems the database is incorrect.
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