From: Talal Itani on
Hello,

I need to have a 4-layer board made, a prototype, 2 boards, nothing fancy.
I did some research in this newsgroup and I narrowed it down to Sierra Pro
Express, ExpressPCB, and AC Advanced Circuits. Do you think I made the
right choice? Do you have any recommendations? I would like to receive the
board 3-5 days.

T.I.


From: Tim Wescott on
Talal Itani wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I need to have a 4-layer board made, a prototype, 2 boards, nothing fancy.
> I did some research in this newsgroup and I narrowed it down to Sierra Pro
> Express, ExpressPCB, and AC Advanced Circuits. Do you think I made the
> right choice? Do you have any recommendations? I would like to receive the
> board 3-5 days.
>
> T.I.
>
>
I have only ever used PCB express (NOT express PCB), and they have never
steered me wrong. Nor have they caused problems that I know of for my
one local client that uses them. They're fast, they're accurate, and if
your board comes back with problems it's because you put them there.

I can't speak to any of the others -- they may be even better than PCB
express (although there's not much room for improvement) or they may be
horrid.

http://www.pcbexpress.com/.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

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From: Talal Itani on

So, there is PCBexpress, and expressPCB. Two different companies?




"Tim Wescott" <tim(a)seemywebsite.com> wrote in message
news:paydneRCzL9Vv8DVnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d(a)web-ster.com...
> Talal Itani wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I need to have a 4-layer board made, a prototype, 2 boards, nothing
>> fancy. I did some research in this newsgroup and I narrowed it down to
>> Sierra Pro Express, ExpressPCB, and AC Advanced Circuits. Do you think I
>> made the right choice? Do you have any recommendations? I would like to
>> receive the board 3-5 days.
>>
>> T.I.
> I have only ever used PCB express (NOT express PCB), and they have never
> steered me wrong. Nor have they caused problems that I know of for my one
> local client that uses them. They're fast, they're accurate, and if your
> board comes back with problems it's because you put them there.
>
> I can't speak to any of the others -- they may be even better than PCB
> express (although there's not much room for improvement) or they may be
> horrid.
>
> http://www.pcbexpress.com/.
>
> --
>
> Tim Wescott
> Wescott Design Services
> http://www.wescottdesign.com
>
> Do you need to implement control loops in software?
> "Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" gives you just what it says.
> See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html


From: Hauke D on

> So, there is PCBexpress, and expressPCB. Two different companies?

Yes.

> Can ExpressPCB receive files from other PCB software?

No. (only netlists from schematic tools)

> As for being "locked-in" to their software, for an extra $60 (last
> time I checked), they will send you the Gerber files. From there, you
> can import to many of the other programs avail.

Hm, didn't know that. Still, it should be noted that ExpressPCB can't
read Gerber files and one can only order from ExpressPCB through their
software, so I'd still consider that being pretty locked in. Plus, if
I wanted to spend a little extra money, I'd just go with something
like EagleCAD and one of the other fab places anyways :) I'd still
recommend ExpressPCB for any simple 2-layer designs where it's not
important for your design to be portable; I've used them several times
myself and it's quick and easy and decent quality. And I'm a big fan
of "keep it simple" interfaces like their software is.

Regards,
-- Hauke D
From: Tim Wescott on
Talal Itani wrote:
(Top posting fixed)
>
> "Tim Wescott" <tim(a)seemywebsite.com> wrote in message
> news:paydneRCzL9Vv8DVnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d(a)web-ster.com...
>> Talal Itani wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I need to have a 4-layer board made, a prototype, 2 boards, nothing
>>> fancy. I did some research in this newsgroup and I narrowed it down to
>>> Sierra Pro Express, ExpressPCB, and AC Advanced Circuits. Do you think I
>>> made the right choice? Do you have any recommendations? I would like to
>>> receive the board 3-5 days.
>>>
>>> T.I.
>> I have only ever used PCB express (NOT express PCB), and they have never
>> steered me wrong. Nor have they caused problems that I know of for my one
>> local client that uses them. They're fast, they're accurate, and if your
>> board comes back with problems it's because you put them there.
>>
>> I can't speak to any of the others -- they may be even better than PCB
>> express (although there's not much room for improvement) or they may be
>> horrid.
>>
>> http://www.pcbexpress.com/.
> So, there is PCBexpress, and expressPCB. Two different companies?
>
>
Yes, very different.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

Do you need to implement control loops in software?
"Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" gives you just what it says.
See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html