From: Ron Ford on
On Sun, 4 May 2008 13:25:23 -0700 (PDT), qquito wrote:

> Thank you, Gordon and Thomas, for your replies! The "-fbounds-check"
> option solves my problem. And I will definitely study the "gfortran"
> manual to learn more about the compiler.
>
>
> On May 4, 2:42 pm, Gordon Sande <g.sa...(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>> In your case you need to RTFM. Not now but RIGHT NOW! The option and
>> several others will be there. There are other debugging options also
>> avaiable on many. But you need to RTFM. In case you do not catch the
>> drift I am suggesting that you learn to use the tool before complaining
>> about it.

I finally realize what Gordon means when he uses this expression. He
means, read the Fortran manual. A good look at the language and good
documentation are here:
http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/GFortran

I think you've got a second problem in that you impugned gfortran of
"treachery." Then the F might be FX Flipping out.

If you bother to familiarize yourself with gfortran.pdf, it might go a long
way to smoothing over such snafus.
--
Ron Ford
"Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot."
From: Gordon Sande on
On 2008-05-05 01:13:57 -0300, Ron Ford <ron(a)nowhere.net> said:

> On Sun, 4 May 2008 13:25:23 -0700 (PDT), qquito wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Gordon and Thomas, for your replies! The "-fbounds-check"
>> option solves my problem. And I will definitely study the "gfortran"
>> manual to learn more about the compiler.
>>
>>
>> On May 4, 2:42 pm, Gordon Sande <g.sa...(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>>> In your case you need to RTFM. Not now but RIGHT NOW! The option and
>>> several others will be there. There are other debugging options also
>>> avaiable on many. But you need to RTFM. In case you do not catch the
>>> drift I am suggesting that you learn to use the tool before complaining
>>> about it.
>
> I finally realize what Gordon means when he uses this expression. He
> means, read the Fortran manual. A good look at the language and good
> documentation are here:
> http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/GFortran

RTFM => Read The Fine Manual*

is a common usenet shorthand. It usually means that the poster would have
gotten an answer with less effort if he/she/it had bothered with such an
old fashioned activity. On occasion there are folks who, for obscure
reasons, have been known to provide misleading answers that involve massive
detours and other "longcuts". And then there are the folks who confidently
give a wrong answer. But then you get what you pay for. The joys of the
internet.

*In the case of C the meaning clearly can not be Read The Fortran Manual.
Some folks believe that the F is for some other common expletive.

> I think you've got a second problem in that you impugned gfortran of
> "treachery." Then the F might be FX Flipping out.
>
> If you bother to familiarize yourself with gfortran.pdf, it might go a long
> way to smoothing over such snafus.


From: Dan Nagle on
Hello,

On 2008-05-05 08:12:04 -0400, Gordon Sande <g.sande(a)worldnet.att.net> said:

> RTFM => Read The Fine Manual*

> Some folks believe that the F is for some other common expletive.

I try to think of it as the emphatic tense.

--
Cheers!

Dan Nagle

From: Ron Ford on
On Mon, 05 May 2008 12:12:04 GMT, Gordon Sande wrote:


> *In the case of C the meaning clearly can not be Read The Fortran Manual.

That might be the exact meaning for someone who deserves better than the
horrible C programming language. C.l.f. discusses the topic of C better
than clc.

> Some folks believe that the F is for some other common expletive.

Fortran and fine are not expletives. Unless, next time I bump my head I
say, "Jesus Fortran Christ!" I would vote for the initialism meaning: read
the fetchin manual.
--
Ron Ford

From: Kurt Kallblad on

"Ron Ford" <ron(a)nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:18sdttls2copj$.3dxhnjzfidwz.dlg(a)40tude.net...
> On Mon, 05 May 2008 12:12:04 GMT, Gordon Sande wrote:
>
>
>> *In the case of C the meaning clearly can not be Read The
>> Fortran Manual.
>
> That might be the exact meaning for someone who deserves better
> than the
> horrible C programming language. C.l.f. discusses the topic of
> C better
> than clc.
>
>> Some folks believe that the F is for some other common
>> expletive.
>
> Fortran and fine are not expletives. Unless, next time I bump
> my head I
> say, "Jesus Fortran Christ!" I would vote for the initialism
> meaning: read
> the fetchin manual.
> --
> Ron Ford
>

Way not "the fat manual" looking at the growing size of the
standard.

Kurt