From: Helmut Hullen on
Hallo, Mark,

Du meintest am 25.01.08:

>> They are trolls. Why do you feed them?

> I'd just like to point out that you are beginning to look like a bot.

May be.
I try to find slackware informations in this newsgroup. But I find
mostly (?) troll discussions. Troll freedings.

No other newsgroup I'm reading (about 60 newsgroups) has so much trolls.
That's bad for the image, for the reputation of slackware.

Viele Gruesse
Helmut

"Ubuntu" - an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".

From: Mark South on
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:39:00 +0100, Helmut Hullen wrote:

> Hallo, Mark,
>
> Du meintest am 25.01.08:
>
>>> They are trolls. Why do you feed them?
>
>> I'd just like to point out that you are beginning to look like a bot.
>
> May be.

:-)

> I try to find slackware informations in this newsgroup. But I find
> mostly (?) troll discussions. Troll freedings.

That's the way it looks from where I'm sitting too.

> No other newsgroup I'm reading (about 60 newsgroups) has so much trolls.

It's normally even worse in alt.os.linux.ubuntu, if that makes you feel
any better.

> That's bad for the image, for the reputation of slackware.

The only solution would be for there to be more Slackware discussion. As
it is, the trolls are mostly filling in empty space :-(

> Viele Gruesse

Mes meilleurs pour un bon weekend.
From: loki harfagr on
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:13:28 +0100, Mark South wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:39:00 +0100, Helmut Hullen wrote:
>
>> Hallo, Mark,
>>
>> Du meintest am 25.01.08:
>>
>>>> They are trolls. Why do you feed them?
>>
>>> I'd just like to point out that you are beginning to look like a bot.
>>
>> May be.
>
> :-)
>
>> I try to find slackware informations in this newsgroup. But I find
>> mostly (?) troll discussions. Troll freedings.
>
> That's the way it looks from where I'm sitting too.

And it doesn't get better when seen from here ;D)

>> No other newsgroup I'm reading (about 60 newsgroups) has so much
>> trolls.

You're quite lucky then! From time to time even *.dev.null,
junk and *.test groups get flooded by trolls and/or spammers :D)

> It's normally even worse in alt.os.linux.ubuntu, if that makes you feel
> any better.

Ubuntu? That sig b0rk3r?

>> That's bad for the image, for the reputation of slackware.
>
> The only solution would be for there to be more Slackware discussion.

That's true, and if you look very closely to the group there is
but the problem with Slackware is taht it's almost perfect so
questions are few, except when there are flood from newcomers
already slightly shocked by a previous OS or WM ;-)

"We all live on the edge of town
Where we all live, ain't a soul around
People start a-comin', all we do is just a-grin
Said we've gotta move out 'cause city's movin' in"

> As it is, the trolls are mostly filling in empty space :-(

Ah, that's just empty space afterall, and you know there's always
room for a beer when all empty space is full ;-)

>> Viele Gruesse
>
> Mes meilleurs pour un bon weekend.
^
¿voeux?

Adessias!
From: Mark South on
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 13:38:10 +0000, loki harfagr wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:13:28 +0100, Mark South wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:39:00 +0100, Helmut Hullen wrote:
>>
>>> Hallo, Mark,
>>>
>>> Du meintest am 25.01.08:
>>>
>>>>> They are trolls. Why do you feed them?
>>>
>>>> I'd just like to point out that you are beginning to look like a bot.
>>>
>>> May be.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>>> I try to find slackware informations in this newsgroup. But I find
>>> mostly (?) troll discussions. Troll freedings.
>>
>> That's the way it looks from where I'm sitting too.
>
> And it doesn't get better when seen from here ;D)
>
>>> No other newsgroup I'm reading (about 60 newsgroups) has so much
>>> trolls.
>
> You're quite lucky then! From time to time even *.dev.null,
> junk and *.test groups get flooded by trolls and/or spammers :D)

The latest is the floods of long articles full of random text, posted
with the same names and details as existing posters.

I can't think why they do it unless they are mail spambots that are
picking up on O*tl**k Expr*ss posting history. Or something.

>> It's normally even worse in alt.os.linux.ubuntu, if that makes you feel
>> any better.
>
> Ubuntu? That sig b0rk3r?

It doesn't generally break sigs, it's just that Dan C hasn't gotten over
the scare it gave him when he tried it ;-)

>>> That's bad for the image, for the reputation of slackware.
>>
>> The only solution would be for there to be more Slackware discussion.
>
> That's true, and if you look very closely to the group there is
> but the problem with Slackware is taht it's almost perfect so questions
> are few, except when there are flood from newcomers already slightly
> shocked by a previous OS or WM ;-)

That and the fact that people asking questions about Slackware related
distros are told to &%ç&*ç$ off and die, and that newbies take one look
in here and run away. (Quite rightly too!)

Basically, I am agreeing with Helmut.

> "We all live on the edge of town
> Where we all live, ain't a soul around People start a-comin', all we do
> is just a-grin Said we've gotta move out 'cause city's movin' in"

I'm pretty sure that's not Puccini.

>> As it is, the trolls are mostly filling in empty space :-(
>
> Ah, that's just empty space afterall, and you know there's always
> room for a beer when all empty space is full ;-)

It's Friday, and I'm making sure to keep an empty space for just that
purpose.

>>> Viele Gruesse
>>
>> Mes meilleurs pour un bon weekend.
> ^
> ¿voeux?

In informal French, the "voeux" is often left implied, as in English one
normally signs off with "all the best", short for "wishing you all the
best".

But you probably already knew that, and you think it's funny to troll me
in this thread :-)

> Adessias!

Wishing you six of the best,
Mark
--
Signature was unable to translate Ubuntu into Hakka
From: loki harfagr on
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:38:04 +0100, Mark South wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 13:38:10 +0000, loki harfagr wrote:
>
....
>>>
>>>> I try to find slackware informations in this newsgroup. But I find
>>>> mostly (?) troll discussions. Troll freedings.
>>>
>>> That's the way it looks from where I'm sitting too.
>>
>> And it doesn't get better when seen from here ;D)
>>
>>>> No other newsgroup I'm reading (about 60 newsgroups) has so much
>>>> trolls.
>>
>> You're quite lucky then! From time to time even *.dev.null,
>> junk and *.test groups get flooded by trolls and/or spammers :D)
>
> The latest is the floods of long articles full of random text, posted
> with the same names and details as existing posters.
>
> I can't think why they do it unless they are mail spambots that are
> picking up on O*tl**k Expr*ss posting history. Or something.


Most prolly "something", in EU that's essentially from people
paid by govs and kin to pressure down people until they're
numb enough to think that crooks are eagles and commershil
streaming is the same as free exchange. In short SP and RIAA
got angry at being flashed going too far at putting out the
fire with gasoline (or Cactus cripplers on CDs) so they're sending
out their dummies and boys for ribs.

>>>> That's bad for the image, for the reputation of slackware.
>>> The only solution would be for there to be more Slackware discussion.
>> That's true, and if you look very closely to the group there is
>> but the problem with Slackware is taht it's almost perfect so questions
>> are few, except when there are flood from newcomers already slightly
>> shocked by a previous OS or WM ;-)
>
> That and the fact that people asking questions about Slackware related
> distros are told to &%ç&*ç$ off and die, and that newbies take one look
> in here and run away. (Quite rightly too!)

Er... Do you mean you think someone would pay attention to a post
that'd be only a sequence of random 4 letters words?

> Basically, I am agreeing with Helmut.

About which basical point? If we're going *that far* in virtualization
of semantics I'd even basically admit I'm on the same page as 'Dan C'
though I'm not reading that page with the same spectacles ;D)
If you meant you're agreeing with Helmut that a .sig *has* to be
b0rk3n an *must* contain slanderous and childish allegations you
can count me out ;D)

>
>> "We all live on the edge of town
>> Where we all live, ain't a soul around People start a-comin', all we do
>> is just a-grin Said we've gotta move out 'cause city's movin' in"
>
> I'm pretty sure that's not Puccini.

Certainly not, although Stefano Tallarico and Giacomo are related
on .it atavism :-)

>>> As it is, the trolls are mostly filling in empty space :-(
>>
>> Ah, that's just empty space afterall, and you know there's always
>> room for a beer when all empty space is full ;-)
>
> It's Friday, and I'm making sure to keep an empty space for just that
> purpose.

I'll try my best to do the same, best wishes for you
and good luck with your six 6-pack-s !-)