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From: Sam Coley on 21 Dec 2005 21:45
I was given a Shuttle case with a mobo (nvidia) that holds an AMD64. By
chance, my main PC has memory and a processor that exactly fits the box
and I have always disliked the high fan noise of my case so I yanked out
the components and moved them over, including my old ATA drive. Turns out
that the Shuttle case is really neat and dead quiet, not to mention way
smaller.

Worked great. But I wanted a much larger drive than my old one so I
bought a 300gb sata and put it in and started to reload Debian 3.1. It
gets up to finding the hardware and does not see the sata drive.

Much troubleshooting later...

Knoppix 3.8 and 4.0 and Ubuntu (both the AMD64 and I386 version) load and
run just fine - including installing the distro on the hard drive. At the
point that it fails with Debian there are no logs since there is nowhere
to write them to and they don't appear to be in ram. (Got to be some logs
somewhere - right?)

Anyway, from what I can tell the Sata drivers on the working distros and
D3.1 are exactly the same. Downloaded a new Sarge installer just to make
sure that I didn't have a bad installer CD - same thing.

Anybody think of something to check or a new line for troubleshooting?

Thanks
Sam Coley
From: Grant on 21 Dec 2005 22:33
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 20:45:12 -0600, Sam Coley <ColeyGS4(a)xxxxx.com> wrote:

>Worked great. But I wanted a much larger drive than my old one so I
>bought a 300gb sata and put it in and started to reload Debian 3.1. It
>gets up to finding the hardware and does not see the sata drive.

I don't know Debian 3.1, but you may need to compile an install kernel
to suit the box, I had to do this to install to a SATA box with earlier
slackware. You want SCSI -> SATA (to suit your chipset), not the early
ATA (IDE) SATA, it is obsolete.

>Anybody think of something to check or a new line for troubleshooting?

Or, change to slack-10.2 :o)

Grant.
From: Sam Coley on 21 Dec 2005 22:51

>>Anybody think of something to check or a new line for troubleshooting?
>
>
>
Actually, I was going to steal a Kernel off of a Knoppix distro just to
see if something changes. So far, the Debian 3.1 has found sata drives
on every other machine I have tried. Even a Dell, strange as that sounds.

It isn't a show stopper since both Knoppix and Ubuntu are Debian distros,
but I like to bring up an install piece by piece rather than having the
whole bucket thrown onto the hard drive at once.

> Or, change to slack-10.2 :o)
I like Slackware and have it on my Laptop. But I have to say I like
Debian more. Probably cause I know it a lot better.

Thanks
Sam



From: Rick Moen on 16 Jan 2006 16:05
Sam Coley <ColeyGS4(a)xxxxx.com> wrote:

[Nvidia motherboard:]

> Knoppix 3.8 and 4.0 and Ubuntu (both the AMD64 and I386 version) load
> and run just fine [...]

> [Debian 3.1] gets up to finding the hardware and does not see the sata
> drive. [...]

> Anybody think of something to check or a new line for troubleshooting?

Which block device driver did Knoppix and Ubuntu load? You had the
ability to type "lspci" and include the relevant information in your
problem report, but didn't bother to do so. Pity about that: It would
have told us which driver you need in a Debian 3.1 "sarge" installer.

Anyhow, very likely you want to use either the official d-i installer's
2.6 kernel option, or one of the 2.6-based unofficial "netinst" images,
such as Kenshi's (i386) or Lennart Lundager Sorensen's (AMD64).

See: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/installers.html#unofficial
From: Dances With Crows on 16 Jan 2006 16:56
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:05:38 -0500, Rick Moen staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
> Sam Coley <ColeyGS4(a)xxxxx.com> wrote:
>> [Nvidia motherboard:] Knoppix 3.8 and 4.0 and Ubuntu (both the AMD64
>> and I386 version) load and run just fine [...] [Debian 3.1] gets up
>> to finding the hardware and does not see the sata drive. [...]
> Anyhow, very likely you want to use either the official d-i
> installer's 2.6 kernel option,

Yes. I just installed Debian stable on a SATA machine (nforce3 chipset)
with an official netinst image, and unless I typed "linux26" at the boot
menu, Debian hung up at initial install. It was probably looking for
disks and not finding any since they were SATA. With the Debian 2.6.8
kernel, it found the disks and let me partition them and install stuff.
(ISTR reading "use 'linux26' if installing Debian on a SATA machine"
sometime in the last 3 weeks, but I have no exact cite for you.)

The weird thing was that the installer didn't see the NIC and complained
about that. The older lspci on the install CD didn't give me any useful
info, but "modprobe forcedeth" worked. *shrug*.

> or one of the 2.6-based unofficial "netinst" images, such as Kenshi's
> (i386) or Lennart Lundager Sorensen's (AMD64). See:
> http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/installers.html#unofficial

Yeah, that too. HTH,

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