USB hardware problems. Microsoft keyboard and mouse with ASUS motherboard.
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From: mike on 24 Jan 2008 19:12 I have a handful of hardware questions/issues. First, I got a new Microsoft keyboard and mouse Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 v1.0 and Wheel Mouse Optical USB these were replacing an ailing a Microsoft Digital Media Pro keyboard and Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 I have a Linksys switchbox so I can control two computers. This switchbox doesn't take USB connectors so I use converters to the old round mice/keyboard connectors. When I first plugged in the new mouse and keyboard NEITHER machine recognized them. Huh? I tried plugging them directly into my newer computer with an Asus P5K-E motherboard, the mouse going directly into a USB port but the keyboard going into the keyboard port. The mouse was recognized but the keyboard was not. So I took the adaptor off the keyboard and plugged it into a USB port and it worked. So what's going on? The old (not that old) Microsoft keyboard and mouse worked fine with the switchbox/USB converters but neither these new ones do?? Is this older USB vs USB 2.0 thing? I'm sitting here right now with two keyboards and mice on my desk. Ugh. The other curious thing (with the old hardware) is that since I got my newer machine (1 week ago) I noticed that when I shut the machine off that the USB peripherals are still on. They are still getting power! The mouse and keyboard lights are still on and my external harddrive is as well even though both machines are off. It must be this new Asus motherboard no? Anyone have any idea of bios settings for an Asus P5K-E to shut off the USB power when the machine is shut down?? One machine is an older PIII running WinXP SP2 and the other is a newer machine running Vista Ultimate. Is this a Vista thing? thanks mike
From: Venom on 25 Jan 2008 02:59 "mike" <mhowes(a)xbaptismofsolitude.org> wrote in message news:WP9mj.809$lU5.482(a)newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net... > > I have a handful of hardware questions/issues. > > First, I got a new Microsoft keyboard and mouse > Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 v1.0 and Wheel Mouse Optical USB > > these were replacing an ailing a Microsoft Digital Media Pro keyboard and > Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 > > I have a Linksys switchbox so I can control two computers. This switchbox > doesn't take USB connectors so I use converters to the old round > mice/keyboard connectors. > When I first plugged in the new mouse and keyboard NEITHER machine > recognized them. Huh? > I tried plugging them directly into my newer computer with an Asus P5K-E > motherboard, the mouse going directly into a USB port but the keyboard going > into the keyboard port. The mouse was recognized but the keyboard was not. > So I took the adaptor off the keyboard and plugged it into a USB port and it > worked. > So what's going on? The old (not that old) Microsoft keyboard and mouse > worked fine with the switchbox/USB converters but neither these new ones > do?? Is this older USB vs USB 2.0 thing? > I'm sitting here right now with two keyboards and mice on my desk. Ugh. > > The other curious thing (with the old hardware) is that since I got my > newer machine (1 week ago) I noticed that when I shut the machine off that > the USB peripherals are still on. They are still getting power! The mouse > and keyboard lights are still on and my external harddrive is as well even > though both machines are off. It must be this new Asus motherboard no? > Anyone have any idea of bios settings for an Asus P5K-E to shut off the USB > power when the machine is shut down?? One machine is an older PIII running > WinXP SP2 and the other is a newer machine running Vista Ultimate. Is this a > Vista thing? > > thanks > mike > > I am having the same problem with a new Dell USB keyboard I was given yester day. I put a converter onto it and plugged it into my KVM switch and nothing works. I don't have a solution as yet.
From: Arno Wagner on 25 Jan 2008 08:01 In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc mike <mhowes(a)xbaptismofsolitude.org> wrote: > I have a handful of hardware questions/issues. > First, I got a new Microsoft keyboard and mouse > Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 v1.0 and Wheel Mouse Optical USB > these were replacing an ailing a Microsoft Digital Media Pro keyboard and > Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 > I have a Linksys switchbox so I can control two computers. This switchbox > doesn't take USB connectors so I use converters to the old round > mice/keyboard connectors. Hmm. PS/2 is not hotpluggable. You may run into issues there. And the converters themselves may also be an issue, since they need to act as device emulatoprs on one side and devece driver on the other. > When I first plugged in the new mouse and keyboard NEITHER machine > recognized them. Huh? Not surprising. PS/2 cannot be ''recognized'' in a strict sense. There is some very limited communication capability towards the keyboard, but nothing like what USB offers. > I tried plugging them directly into my newer computer with an Asus P5K-E > motherboard, the mouse going directly into a USB port but the keyboard going > into the keyboard port. The mouse was recognized but the keyboard was not. > So I took the adaptor off the keyboard and plugged it into a USB port and it > worked. See above. > So what's going on? The old (not that old) Microsoft keyboard and mouse > worked fine with the switchbox/USB converters but neither these new ones > do?? Is this older USB vs USB 2.0 thing? > I'm sitting here right now with two keyboards and mice on my desk. Ugh. The only real solution is to get an USB-enabled switchboz. The converters are not general converters and cannot be. Also you should not hot-plug PS/2 connectors. They are not designed for that. You can (in the worst case) destroy the mainboard and the keyboard doing that. Mine (e.g.) has fuses so there is at least no fire hazard, but if they blow, soldering is required to make the connector work again. That said, the risk is relatively small, since only one supply voltage goes to the keyboard and reverse voltage (a sure chip-killer) is not possible. > The other curious thing (with the old hardware) is that since I got my > newer machine (1 week ago) I noticed that when I shut the machine off that > the USB peripherals are still on. They are still getting power! You have the option to put USB-power on the stanby bower line. Some mainboards let you change that, e.g. with a jumper. > The mouse and keyboard lights are still on and my external harddrive > is as well even though both machines are off. It must be this new > Asus motherboard no? For the PS?2 typically this is jumper-selectable. It is on mu ASUS board. > Anyone have any idea of bios settings for an Asus P5K-E to shut off > the USB power when the machine is shut down?? One machine is an > older PIII running WinXP SP2 and the other is a newer machine > running Vista Ultimate. Is this a Vista thing? No connection to VIsta. This is hardware. And usually not a BIOS setting. Arno
From: milleron on 25 Jan 2008 12:27 On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:12:36 -0800, "mike" <mhowes(a)xbaptismofsolitude.org> wrote: > > I have a handful of hardware questions/issues. > > First, I got a new Microsoft keyboard and mouse > Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 v1.0 and Wheel Mouse Optical USB > > these were replacing an ailing a Microsoft Digital Media Pro keyboard and >Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 > > I have a Linksys switchbox so I can control two computers. This switchbox >doesn't take USB connectors so I use converters to the old round >mice/keyboard connectors. > When I first plugged in the new mouse and keyboard NEITHER machine >recognized them. Huh? > I tried plugging them directly into my newer computer with an Asus P5K-E >motherboard, the mouse going directly into a USB port but the keyboard going >into the keyboard port. The mouse was recognized but the keyboard was not. >So I took the adaptor off the keyboard and plugged it into a USB port and it >worked. > So what's going on? The old (not that old) Microsoft keyboard and mouse >worked fine with the switchbox/USB converters but neither these new ones >do?? Is this older USB vs USB 2.0 thing? > I'm sitting here right now with two keyboards and mice on my desk. Ugh. > > The other curious thing (with the old hardware) is that since I got my >newer machine (1 week ago) I noticed that when I shut the machine off that >the USB peripherals are still on. They are still getting power! The mouse >and keyboard lights are still on and my external harddrive is as well even >though both machines are off. It must be this new Asus motherboard no? >Anyone have any idea of bios settings for an Asus P5K-E to shut off the USB >power when the machine is shut down?? One machine is an older PIII running >WinXP SP2 and the other is a newer machine running Vista Ultimate. Is this a >Vista thing? > > thanks >mike > Please tell us the brand of KVM you're using. I, too, have a PS/2 KVM. It's an Iogear 4-port model, and it recognizes and works nicely with the PS/2 keyboard I have connected to it via a USB-PS/2 adaptor. However, the reason I got it is that the older Linksys switch I had did not work well this way. (I stayed with a PS/2 KVM because one of the computers connected to it has only one USB port, and I didn't want to complicate the setup with a hub for that.) Your problem may well be solved by updating your KVM switch to a later model. If all the computers are USB capable, then certainly it would be solved by getting a USB KVM switch. Regarding your last question, in XP's Device Manager, you do have the ability to "allow the computer to turn off" the USB Root Hubs "to save power," but I do not know if that would solve your problem. In fact, I think that option is checked by default. I don't know how Vista works in this area. At any rate, I'm guessing that you probably want to look to the OS for a solution rather than the BIOS. Ron
From: mike on 25 Jan 2008 17:18
> Please tell us the brand of KVM you're using. > > I, too, have a PS/2 KVM. It's an Iogear 4-port model, and it > recognizes and works nicely with the PS/2 keyboard I have connected to > it via a USB-PS/2 adaptor. However, the reason I got it is that the > older Linksys switch I had did not work well this way. (I stayed with > a PS/2 KVM because one of the computers connected to it has only one > USB port, and I didn't want to complicate the setup with a hub for > that.) > > Your problem may well be solved by updating your KVM switch to a later > model. If all the computers are USB capable, then certainly it would > be solved by getting a USB KVM switch. Linksys 2-Port Compact I never suspected with KVM. thanks and had already thought it would be much simpler, with many fewer little converters if the KVM was had USB connectors mike |