From: Alan Stern on
On Mon, 1 Feb 2010, Catalin Marinas wrote:

> On Fri, 2010-01-29 at 18:54 +0000, Matthew Dharm wrote:
> > HOWEVER, I firmly believe that the cache-management functions belong with
> > the driver that actually talks to the low-level hardware, as that's the
> > only place where you can be 100% certain of what cache operations are
> > needed. After all, I think someone is working on a USB-over-IP transport,
> > and trying to manage cache at the usb-storage level in that scenario is
> > just silly.
> >
> > So, let's put this in the HCD drivers and be done with it.
>
> The patch below is what fixes the I-D cache incoherency issues on ARM. I
> don't particularly like the solution but it seems to be the only one
> available.
>
> IMHO, Linux should have functions similar to the DMA API but for PIO
> drivers (e.g. pio_map_single/pio_unmap_single) that non-coherent
> architectures can define, otherwise being no-ops. Any thoughts?

You should bring this up on the linux-arm-kernel mailing list and CC:
the ARM maintainer. They are the ones most directly affected.

Alan Stern

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From: Andreas Mohr on
[CC Takashi]

On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 05:29:14PM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-01-29 at 18:54 +0000, Matthew Dharm wrote:
> > HOWEVER, I firmly believe that the cache-management functions belong with
> > the driver that actually talks to the low-level hardware, as that's the
> > only place where you can be 100% certain of what cache operations are
> > needed. After all, I think someone is working on a USB-over-IP transport,
> > and trying to manage cache at the usb-storage level in that scenario is
> > just silly.
> >
> > So, let's put this in the HCD drivers and be done with it.
>
> The patch below is what fixes the I-D cache incoherency issues on ARM. I
> don't particularly like the solution but it seems to be the only one
> available.

Thanks very much for working on this amazingly large problem!

I took some time to add your patch to ehci-q.c / ohci-q.c
(for my *hci-ssb.c ASUS WL-500gP v2), on my now _heavily_ patched-up 2.6.31.9,
but _UNFORTUNATELY_ it kept locking up the same way as always when stopping
playback despite being damn sure this time that this patch could have
the potential to finally fix it ;)
(I had to replace memory.h with page.h on my arch though, to fix the build)

This is on MIPSEL (not one of my many ARM devices, unfortunately ;),
with usb-audio, and the madplay process crashes in __bzero(),
which strongly indicates cache coherency issues (other subsequent backtraces
have lots of mmap and vma listed, see also my "snd_usb_audio OOPS on MIPSEL -
is that the mmap issue?").

Next thing I'll do is fire up gdb and get a good backtrace of the
__bzero() address to find out which page handling in mpd exactly
is hampered with crashes. This is now ~ the third patch that I applied
on-the-go and that didn't help, so it's probably time to do
some earnest analysis on what's really going on locally.

Note that usb-storage itself does work on this platform though.

Rather annoying to be so close (sound works) yet so far away,
especially after all that USB host trouble I already had.

Thanks a lot again,

Andreas Mohr
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From: Paul Mundt on
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 03:14:04PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Feb 2010, Catalin Marinas wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 2010-01-29 at 18:54 +0000, Matthew Dharm wrote:
> > > HOWEVER, I firmly believe that the cache-management functions belong with
> > > the driver that actually talks to the low-level hardware, as that's the
> > > only place where you can be 100% certain of what cache operations are
> > > needed. After all, I think someone is working on a USB-over-IP transport,
> > > and trying to manage cache at the usb-storage level in that scenario is
> > > just silly.
> > >
> > > So, let's put this in the HCD drivers and be done with it.
> >
> > The patch below is what fixes the I-D cache incoherency issues on ARM. I
> > don't particularly like the solution but it seems to be the only one
> > available.
> >
> > IMHO, Linux should have functions similar to the DMA API but for PIO
> > drivers (e.g. pio_map_single/pio_unmap_single) that non-coherent
> > architectures can define, otherwise being no-ops. Any thoughts?
>
> You should bring this up on the linux-arm-kernel mailing list and CC:
> the ARM maintainer. They are the ones most directly affected.
>
No, this belongs on linux-arch, as it's something that impacts a lot of
people besides ARM.
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From: Paul Mundt on
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 05:29:14PM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-01-29 at 18:54 +0000, Matthew Dharm wrote:
> > HOWEVER, I firmly believe that the cache-management functions belong with
> > the driver that actually talks to the low-level hardware, as that's the
> > only place where you can be 100% certain of what cache operations are
> > needed. After all, I think someone is working on a USB-over-IP transport,
> > and trying to manage cache at the usb-storage level in that scenario is
> > just silly.
> >
> > So, let's put this in the HCD drivers and be done with it.
>
> The patch below is what fixes the I-D cache incoherency issues on ARM. I
> don't particularly like the solution but it seems to be the only one
> available.
>
> IMHO, Linux should have functions similar to the DMA API but for PIO
> drivers (e.g. pio_map_single/pio_unmap_single) that non-coherent
> architectures can define, otherwise being no-ops. Any thoughts?
>
I would certainly be in favour of such a thing, particularly since on SH
we often find ourselves with coherent PIO and non-coherent MMIO.

This is however something that should be prototyped and submitted to
linux-arch for discussion.

> diff --git a/drivers/usb/host/isp1760-hcd.c b/drivers/usb/host/isp1760-hcd.c
> index 27b8f7c..4d3eeee 100644
> --- a/drivers/usb/host/isp1760-hcd.c
> +++ b/drivers/usb/host/isp1760-hcd.c
> @@ -18,6 +18,8 @@
> #include <linux/uaccess.h>
> #include <linux/io.h>
> #include <asm/unaligned.h>
> +#include <asm/cacheflush.h>
> +#include <asm/memory.h>
>
asm/memory.h isn't a portable header. If you are including it for
virt_to_page(), linux/io.h should already bring that in via asm/io.h.
If arm doesn't bring in virt_to_page() through its asm/io.h, then fix the
headers there please.

FWIW I used the same fix you came up with on r8a66597_hcd and it fixed up
crashes we were seeing there, too.
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From: Oliver Neukum on
Am Montag, 1. Februar 2010 23:30:01 schrieb Andreas Mohr:
> I took some time to add your patch to ehci-q.c / ohci-q.c
> (for my *hci-ssb.c ASUS WL-500gP v2), on my now heavily patched-up 2.6.31.9,
> but UNFORTUNATELY it kept locking up the same way as always when stopping
> playback despite being damn sure this time that this patch could have
> the potential to finally fix it ;)
> (I had to replace memory.h with page.h on my arch though, to fix the build)

A moment please. You are using ehci and ohci. Both are using dma.
Why does this issue arise?

Regards
Oliver
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