USB on Debian Potato?
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From: Mike Fontenot on 24 Jul 2008 19:55 I've got a 12-year-old Gateway PC that is running Debian potato. The PC has two usb ports on the backside, but I've never before tried to use them. I need to replace that computer, and I've just bought a Dell Inspiron 530 that I'm going to put Debian on. I need to be able to transfer my files from the old PC to the new PC. On the old PC, I do my backups via a Travan IDE tape drive. I wasn't able to get a compatible tape drive on the new PC, so I'm planning to use a flash drive for backups on the new PC (and later, a big external disk). I'm hoping to be able to do the transfer of my files using the flash drive, but when I plug it into the usb port on the old machine, it briefly lights up, then goes dark, and there is no change in the "fdisk -l" or "dmesg" output (both before and after a reboot). So apparently I don't have support for usb in that potato operating system. Does anyone know if it's possible to get usb to work with potato? I don't want to upgrade that machine to a later version of Debian, because I need both PCs to work during the transition period, and I'm afraid an upgrade will probably break something that I don't want to take time to fix (since I'll hopefully be retiring that machine soon, and I want to spend my available time trying to get the new machine to work). Any advice much appreciated. Mike Fontenot
From: Bill Marcum on 24 Jul 2008 20:20 ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.hardware.] On 2008-07-24, Mike Fontenot <mlfasf(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > > I've got a 12-year-old Gateway PC that is running Debian potato. The PC > has two usb ports on the backside, but I've never before tried to use > them. > > I need to replace that computer, and I've just bought a Dell Inspiron > 530 that I'm going to put Debian on. I need to be able to transfer my > files from the old PC to the new PC. On the old PC, I do my backups via > a Travan IDE tape drive. I wasn't able to get a compatible tape drive on > the new PC, so I'm planning to use a flash drive for backups on the new > PC (and later, a big external disk). > > I'm hoping to be able to do the transfer of my files using the flash > drive, but when I plug it into the usb port on the old machine, it > briefly lights up, then goes dark, and there is no change in the "fdisk > -l" or "dmesg" output (both before and after a reboot). So apparently I > don't have support for usb in that potato operating system. > > Does anyone know if it's possible to get usb to work with potato? I > don't want to upgrade that machine to a later version of Debian, because > I need both PCs to work during the transition period, and I'm afraid an > upgrade will probably break something that I don't want to take time to > fix (since I'll hopefully be retiring that machine soon, > and I want to spend my available time trying to get the new machine to > work). > > Any advice much appreciated. > > Mike Fontenot You might be able to boot Damn Small Linux on your old PC. I think it supports USB. Or, if your PC has a 2.2 kernel I think you can upgrade to 2.4 without upgrading the entire system.
From: Jean-David Beyer on 24 Jul 2008 20:26 Mike Fontenot wrote: > I've got a 12-year-old Gateway PC that is running Debian potato. The PC > has two usb ports on the backside, but I've never before tried to use > them. > > I need to replace that computer, and I've just bought a Dell Inspiron 530 > that I'm going to put Debian on. I need to be able to transfer my files > from the old PC to the new PC. On the old PC, I do my backups via a > Travan IDE tape drive. I wasn't able to get a compatible tape drive on > the new PC, so I'm planning to use a flash drive for backups on the new > PC (and later, a big external disk). > Can you write your files onto the Travan IDE drive and then move the IDE drive to the new machine? I imagine you could if the new machine has a spare IDE slot. I had a worse Travan type drive that used a floppy controller; if yours is actually one of these, you could plug its controller into the floppy slot of the m.b. -- .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. /V\ PGP-Key: 9A2FC99A Registered Machine 241939. /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org ^^-^^ 20:20:01 up 4 days, 1:08, 5 users, load average: 4.06, 4.11, 4.13
From: Dances With Crows on 24 Jul 2008 20:31 ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.hardware.] Mike Fontenot staggered into the Black Sun and said: > I've got a 12-year-old Gateway PC that is running Debian potato. > I need to replace that computer. I need to be able to transfer my > files from the old PC to the new PC. The old box has a NIC, doesn't it? If so, the solution is easy: crossover cable. Heck, if the new box is new enough, its NIC will be able to autodetect and swap Rx and Tx on its own, so you can just use an ordinary length of Cat5. > briefly lights up, then goes dark. Apparently I don't have support > for usb in that potato operating system. Which kernel did Potato use? You need 2.4 for USB support, and depending on how new the USB drive is, you may need a recent revision. An easier solution is in the first paragraph. > Does anyone know if it's possible to get usb to work with potato? Upgrade the kernel to the latest 2.4 (or 2.6) you can find, and it should work. The easiest solution is in the first paragraph. -- Due to inflation, your 40 acres and a mule have now been reduced to 400 square feet and a guinea pig. My blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
From: Mike Fontenot on 25 Jul 2008 13:31 Jean-David Beyer wrote: > > Can you write your files onto the Travan IDE drive and then > move the IDE drive to the new machine? I imagine you could > if the new > machine has a spare IDE slot. I had a worse Travan type > drive that used a > floppy controller; if yours is actually one of these, > you could plug its > controller into the floppy slot of the m.b. I don't know much about what's inside the case of my new computer...Dell didn't provide much info. I've been assuming that IDE is old technology, and that I wouldn't be able to move the tape drive to my new machine, but maybe that IS possible. The tape drive isn't the earlier one that was driven like a floppy...and besides, I ordered the new computer with a floppy, so there might not be another floppy slot available anyway. Mike Fontenot
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