From: Stimpy on
On Sun, 4 May 2008 12:20:16 +0100, Pd wrote
>
>>> Why not just use a couple of Devolos (Devoli??)
>>>
>>> No geeky stuff required then, just two Devolos and two bits of Ethernet
>>> cable - no wireless stuff, no bridges. EZ-PZ
>>
>> I think I'd go with that too. We had loads of trouble getting wireless
>> to work at my sister's house (too many walls, and a library of books in
>> between). I got a couple of the plugin adapters, and it works fine - I
>> don't think they were Devolo, but these were less then �30 the pair at
>> Amazon. Connects between PCs and Macs no trouble. The cheaper ones are
>> only 10Mb, but that's still good enough for most broadband.
>
> Here's a dumb question - are these Homeplug things just a bridge, i.e.
> like the two ends of a piece of Ethernet, so you always need two to make
> a link? Or can you buy three, one connects to your router, and the other
> two can be used to connect computers to the router?

Yes you can... My ADSL router is connected to one and there are then three
other plugs around the house connected to separate computers - 1 Devolo
'sending' and 3 'receiving' if you like.

The Devolo ones genuinely 'Just Work' (tm) no mucking around with IP
addresses or the like, just plug in and go.

I tried the Netgear 'mains to wireless' version and they were a nightmare -
endless arsing around with setting IP's etc to get them to work. I binned 'em
after a few weeks.

From: Andy Hewitt on
Stimpy <stimpy1997uk(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 4 May 2008 12:20:16 +0100, Pd wrote
> >
> >>> Why not just use a couple of Devolos (Devoli??)
> >>>
> >>> No geeky stuff required then, just two Devolos and two bits of Ethernet
> >>> cable - no wireless stuff, no bridges. EZ-PZ
> >>
> >> I think I'd go with that too. We had loads of trouble getting wireless
> >> to work at my sister's house (too many walls, and a library of books in
> >> between). I got a couple of the plugin adapters, and it works fine - I
> >> don't think they were Devolo, but these were less then �30 the pair at
> >> Amazon. Connects between PCs and Macs no trouble. The cheaper ones are
> >> only 10Mb, but that's still good enough for most broadband.
> >
> > Here's a dumb question - are these Homeplug things just a bridge, i.e.
> > like the two ends of a piece of Ethernet, so you always need two to make
> > a link? Or can you buy three, one connects to your router, and the other
> > two can be used to connect computers to the router?
>
> Yes you can... My ADSL router is connected to one and there are then three
> other plugs around the house connected to separate computers - 1 Devolo
> 'sending' and 3 'receiving' if you like.
>
> The Devolo ones genuinely 'Just Work' (tm) no mucking around with IP
> addresses or the like, just plug in and go.
>
> I tried the Netgear 'mains to wireless' version and they were a nightmare -
> endless arsing around with setting IP's etc to get them to work. I binned 'em
> after a few weeks.

The ones I got were Vesenet. Similarly, they just 'work'. They were
actually �38 a pair with P&P.

--
Andy Hewitt
<http://web.mac.com/andrewhewitt1/>
From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on
On Mon, 5 May 2008 10:50:48 +0100, Stimpy <stimpy1997uk(a)yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 5 May 2008 10:35:41 +0100, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote
>>
>>> I think this approach might be a problem in my house. The adsl router
>>> is in a home office that is on a separate mains circuit from the rest
>>> of the house (which is where the other computer is going to be). Don't
>>> these "network-through-the-mains" beasties have to be on a common
>>> circuit?
>>
>> You could use a wifi devolo if that gives you any help, or you could
>> bridge your two mains segments with two devolo and a long patch cord -
>> it sounds worrying, but there's no mains connection through it!
>
>...or just lay in an armoured Ethernet cable between the house and the
>office.

I was thinking of sockets near the distribution panel, so you could do
it with a short patch lead, but otherwise you're right - it works out
the same, and a single armoured cable is cheaper than that plus a pair
of Devolos.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
"I have an asteroid named after me. Isaac Asimov's got one too.
It's smaller and more eccentric." -- Arthur C. Clarke
From: Ian Piper on
On 2008-05-04 14:59:38 +0100, wildrover.andy(a)googlemail.com (Andy Hewitt) said:

> Stimpy <stimpy1997uk(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 4 May 2008 12:20:16 +0100, Pd wrote
>>>
>>>>> Why not just use a couple of Devolos (Devoli??)
>>>>>
> The ones I got were Vesenet. Similarly, they just 'work'. They were
> actually �38 a pair with P&P.

I think this approach might be a problem in my house. The adsl router
is in a home office that is on a separate mains circuit from the rest
of the house (which is where the other computer is going to be). Don't
these "network-through-the-mains" beasties have to be on a common
circuit?


Ian.
--

From: Andy Hewitt on
Ian Piper <ianpiper(a)mac.com> wrote:

> On 2008-05-04 14:59:38 +0100, wildrover.andy(a)googlemail.com (Andy Hewitt)
said:
>
> > Stimpy <stimpy1997uk(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 4 May 2008 12:20:16 +0100, Pd wrote
> >>>
> >>>>> Why not just use a couple of Devolos (Devoli??)
> >>>>>
> > The ones I got were Vesenet. Similarly, they just 'work'. They were
> > actually �38 a pair with P&P.
>
> I think this approach might be a problem in my house. The adsl router
> is in a home office that is on a separate mains circuit from the rest
> of the house (which is where the other computer is going to be). Don't
> these "network-through-the-mains" beasties have to be on a common
> circuit?

Oh you do like making things hard don't you! Yes, a connected circuit
between the two would be necessary.

They do work through extensions though.

--
Andy Hewitt
<http://web.mac.com/andrewhewitt1/>
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