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From: RobV on 5 May 2008 16:53 William wrote: <snip> > >> It's worse than that. I have a E6600 in a Asus P5B-Plus MB that is >> easily running at the same FSB and speed as the E6850. He could >> have easily just overclocked the E6600 and had the exact same speed; >> CPU, FSB and memory, as with the E6850. >> > > "Easily", I call BS. > > If you are running that E6600 at 3 gig, you have an after market > cooler running on it or you are frying that mobo and everything > around it, including the north and south bridges, have the cpu > voltage up as well as the n and s bridges and ram. You do know why > Intel rates their processors at different speeds don't you? > > We don't even have the same mobo's. You are comparing apples to > oranges and you know it. All this stuff has been discussed on ASUS' > web site for this mobo and nothing you have said is new to me. You > young boys need to move along and stop trying to sound so special. > Tell me something I don't know, that would be refreshing. I wasn't responding to you. Are you not familiar with Usenet protocol? I was responding to Ron, but since you butted in... I think you're just upset that you spent more money for a CPU you didn't need. Now, perhaps you don't condone overclocking, but that is not a reason to personally attack me, or anyone else here TINH. The pictures of CPU-Z that stray77 posted are identical to what CPU-Z looks like on my system, excetp my memory is running at 417 MHz (It's DDR2 800 speed, so it's running at DD2 835). The stock cooler works fine and I have not increased voltage on anything but the memory, as it is rated for 1.9V and the spec for DDR2 ram is 1.8V (default SPD setting). Have fun with whatever. I will now enter you into my kill file so I don't have to see your posts anymore.
From: William on 5 May 2008 17:39 "RobV" <robv(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote in message news:481f73af$0$5719$4c368faf(a)roadrunner.com... > William wrote: > <snip> >> >>> It's worse than that. I have a E6600 in a Asus P5B-Plus MB that is >>> easily running at the same FSB and speed as the E6850. He could >>> have easily just overclocked the E6600 and had the exact same speed; >>> CPU, FSB and memory, as with the E6850. >>> >> >> "Easily", I call BS. >> >> If you are running that E6600 at 3 gig, you have an after market >> cooler running on it or you are frying that mobo and everything >> around it, including the north and south bridges, have the cpu >> voltage up as well as the n and s bridges and ram. You do know why >> Intel rates their processors at different speeds don't you? >> >> We don't even have the same mobo's. You are comparing apples to >> oranges and you know it. All this stuff has been discussed on ASUS' >> web site for this mobo and nothing you have said is new to me. You >> young boys need to move along and stop trying to sound so special. Tell >> me something I don't know, that would be refreshing. > > I wasn't responding to you. Are you not familiar with Usenet protocol? I > was responding to Ron, but since you butted in... > > I think you're just upset that you spent more money for a CPU you didn't > need. Now, perhaps you don't condone overclocking, but that is not a > reason to personally attack me, or anyone else here TINH. > > The pictures of CPU-Z that stray77 posted are identical to what CPU-Z > looks like on my system, excetp my memory is running at 417 MHz (It's DDR2 > 800 speed, so it's running at DD2 835). The stock cooler works fine and I > have not increased voltage on anything but the memory, as it is rated for > 1.9V and the spec for DDR2 ram is 1.8V (default SPD setting). > > Have fun with whatever. > > I will now enter you into my kill file so I don't have to see your posts > anymore. More BS. You were responding to my comments while posting to Ron and you know it. Take your straw-man BS and try it on someone uneducated in Logic debate. If you followed Usnet protocol you wouldn't have bothered posting your message in the first place. How fast you all wither away when challenged to back up your assertions. Typical of you newbie's on these subjects. If I had a nickel each time I ran into ........... Why does Intel sell the Q6600 and Q6850 and all the other variants of the CPU series? Answer that and you will know why you are making a fool of yourself. Please don't bother responding, I don't want you to make any more foolish comments. I won't bother kill-filing you, you don't post enough to put out the effort. William. FYI: Your bunch are the ones who went off-topic attacking me. I just followed your lead. See where that got you? Maybe you morons are used to debating with idiots and not used to being challenged. Be careful what you bark at, it might bite back.
From: William on 5 May 2008 18:12 "Tauty" <litotesc@@@@hothothotmale.com> wrote in message news:6s6dnUpaQof5dYDVnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > > "William" <nospam(a)pacifier.com> wrote in message > news:ns-dnV9_VPcaYIHVnZ2dnUVZ_h6hnZ2d(a)palinacquisition... >> As you all know the prices on Intel's cpu's had a large price cut last >> month. So I waited for NewEgg to offer a good sail on the CPU I wanted >> to get when I first put this system together but couldn't afford it at >> the time. >> >> I decided to take the old E6600 out and put the new E6850 in and see what >> would happen. All went quite well, better than expected. The only thing >> I noticed is that I got a "Intel CPU uCode loading error" when I booted >> the computer. All seemed to run well, and I was pleased. >> > > I did a similar thing - except I did the E8400 and it works really well > the nifty thing is I put it 4 gigs of fast ram and the board automatically > configued the fsb to 1333MHz > and it's running great! (and cooler too!) Tauty: It's fun to upgrade a system isn't it. To bad is costs so much on an ongoing bases. But what is a gamer / video / audio / photo tweaker to do? The lower temperature advantage going with a faster processor vs over-clocking a slower cpu was a big part in deciding to purchase a faster processor for me. I've seen too much heat damage in my days working in electronics. I think my next update in a cpu will require a new mobo. The support ic's on this mobo are at their higher limits now. I could go quad, but their is no performance advantage at present on the software I'm running. Have fun. William
From: ~misfit~ on 6 May 2008 23:26 Somewhere on teh intarweb "Ed Light" typed: > ~misfit~ wrote: >> Somewhere on teh intarweb "William" typed: >>> It's a fact, >>> certified faster CUP's run cooler than OC'ed CPU's at the same >>> speed. >> >> I take issue with this "fact" so have crossposted it to >> alt.comp.hardware.overclocking. Hopefully someone there will give >> their opinion. > > > It depends. > > If the overclocked cpu can run stable at the stock voltage of the > certified cpu, then there should be no difference. > > If the overclocked cpu needs to use a bit more voltage than the > certified cpu, then it would run hotter. Thanks Ed, that is exactly what my experience with CPUs and and 10+ years of overclocking tells me. The only way the overclocked, lesser-spec'ed CPU would run hotter is if it needs more vcore to reach the same speed (or is supplied with a different cooler and they're used with stock coolers). Thanks. -- Shaun.
From: ~misfit~ on 7 May 2008 07:42
Somewhere on teh intarweb "Ed Light" typed: > ~misfit~ wrote: >> Thanks Ed, that is exactly what my experience with CPUs and and 10+ >> years of overclocking tells me. The only way the overclocked, >> lesser-spec'ed CPU would run hotter is if it needs more vcore to >> reach the same speed (or is supplied with a different cooler and >> they're used with stock coolers). > > This reminds me of the two Sempron 64 3400+ cpus I got for friends. > Looking up the specs, they could come in any of three significantly > different voltages. It's nice that they would bother to test them and > set up the ones that could run at low voltages to do so -- at least, I > suppose that's what they did. We got the ones with the lowest voltage > and they run cold -- the pc's idle at 35 watts! That's pretty cool. <g> I have an old XP1800+ T'bred-B that has a default vcore of 1.65V (IIRC) and default speed of 1.53 GHz (133 x 11.5?). For ages now I've had it running at 10 x 180MHz and at 1.5V vcore. It's cool as a cucumber and rock-solid. It'll do over 2.1 GHz with 1.75V but it's not my main machine anymore (it's number 3) and I don't need it to be that fast. -- Shaun. |