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From: Roger Mills on 15 Jun 2008 13:54
It would occasionally be useful to be able to connect my laptop to the
internet when away from home. I would like to be able to do this - as
economically as possible - using one of my mobile phones as a modem, rather
than using WiFi and having to be in the proximity of a hotspot.

I have 3 mobile phones, all on Orange - 2 PAYG and one on Eq Virgin tariff.
All have infra-red. I have a USB-based infra-red adaptor for the laptop.

Can some kind soul please explain what the options are, in words of one
syllable - 'cos I'm somewhat confused by what it says on the Orange site. My
3 phones are a Nokia 6070 on the OVP tariff - a free upgrade for the
S-E-K300i (now with a PAYG SIM in it), itself a free upgrade for the
original Nokia 6150e (also now having a PAYG SIM) - but I can mix and match
phones and SIMs if there is any advantage in doing so.

The Orange website has a blow by blow account of how to use quite a lot of
different phones as a modem - but none of my 3 phones shows up in their
drop-down menus! But, looking at the menus on the 6070 (for example) I
appear to be able to select GPRS Packet Data or somesuch, and the word
'modem' appears on the screen - so I assume I can use this phone as a modem
even though it isn't listed as such on the Orange site?

Then there's the question of pricing. The �1 per day deal would suit me very
nicely, but it's not at all clear (to me at any rate!) whether this only
applies when I'm using the phone *itself* for emailing and browsing (which
I've no desire to do) as opposed to using it as a modem to connect my
laptop.

Can someone please clarify just what *is* possible?

When using the phone as a modem I presume there's some way of connecting it
to an appropriate Orange server (special number to dial?) rather than
dialling an 0845 number to connect to one of my existing dial-up accounts -
which would cost an arm and a leg and probably be dreadfully slow? What sort
of speed does GPRS achieve?

All help appreciated!
--
Cheers,
Roger
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From: James Lewis on 15 Jun 2008 14:22
On 15 Jun, 18:54, "Roger Mills" <watt.ty...(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
> It would occasionally be useful to be able to connect my laptop to the
> internet when away from home. I would like to be able to do this - as
> economically as possible - using one of my mobile phones as a modem, rather
> than using WiFi and having to be in the proximity of a hotspot.
>
> I have 3 mobile phones, all on Orange - 2 PAYG and one on Eq Virgin tariff..
> All have infra-red. I have a USB-based infra-red adaptor for the laptop.
>
> Can some kind soul please explain what the options are, in words of one
> syllable - 'cos I'm somewhat confused by what it says on the Orange site. My
> 3 phones are a Nokia 6070 on the OVP tariff - a free upgrade for the
> S-E-K300i (now with a PAYG SIM in it), itself a free upgrade for the
> original Nokia 6150e (also now having a PAYG SIM) - but I can mix and match
> phones and SIMs if there is any advantage in doing so.
>
> The Orange website has a blow by blow account of how to use quite a lot of
> different phones as a modem - but none of my 3 phones shows up in their
> drop-down menus! But, looking at the menus on the 6070 (for example) I
> appear to be able to select GPRS Packet Data or somesuch, and the word
> 'modem' appears on the screen - so I assume I can use this phone as a modem
> even though it isn't listed as such on the Orange site?
>
> Then there's the question of pricing. The £1 per day deal would suit me very
> nicely, but it's not at all clear (to me at any rate!) whether this only
> applies when I'm using the phone *itself* for emailing and browsing (which
> I've no desire to do) as opposed to using it as a modem to connect my
> laptop.
>
> Can someone please clarify just what *is* possible?
>
> When using the phone as a modem I presume there's some way of connecting it
> to an appropriate Orange server (special number to dial?) rather than
> dialling an 0845 number to connect to one of my existing dial-up accounts -
> which would cost an arm and a leg and probably be dreadfully slow? What sort
> of speed does GPRS achieve?
>
> All help appreciated!
> --
> Cheers,
> Roger
> ______
> Email address maintained for newsgroup use only, and not regularly
> monitored..
> Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks. PLEASE REPLY TO
> NEWSGROUP!

The £1/day deal on pay as you go includes both browsing the internet
from the handset and when using it as a modem. I think it is still
against their terms and conditions to use the service as a modem
however; but for occasional use only, they'll never know.

The service only applies to GPRS data only so no dial-up. I normally
enter *99# as the "dial-up number" but rather than dialling this
number the phone should read it as a command to start a GPRS session
instead. So, even though your laptop thinks its a dial-up connection
the phone isn’t actually dialling a number if that makes sense.

As for speeds, GPRS is pretty slow...similar to a home dial-up
connection. I know the Nokia 6070 supports EDGE that supports speeds
up to 3x faster than GPRS (I think). You would need to have EDGE
coverage to be able to use it though and at the moment coverage is
very patchy. If EDGE is available then the phone would use it over
GPRS automatically – (you cant choose between them).
I'm not sure if using an Infra-red connection would slow things down
either...I dont personally know what speeds it supports but I'm sure
someone will be able to tell you.

One thing you may want to look at is a data bundle: One good one to
try is "2 months free Evening and Weekend Orange World Access" which
will give you ‘unlimited’ access to the internet during the evenings
(7pm-7am) and weekends free for 2 months. This you'd need to apply to
the OVP sim as its a pay monthly bundle. (pay as you go may have a
similar equivalent too?) This will give you a chance to see what
speeds you get etc for free.
From: Steve Terry on 15 Jun 2008 17:03
"Roger Mills" <watt.tyler(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:6bl3a5F3cfkuuU1(a)mid.individual.net...
> It would occasionally be useful to be able to connect my laptop to the
> internet when away from home. I would like to be able to do this - as
> economically as possible - using one of my mobile phones as a modem,
> rather than using WiFi and having to be in the proximity of a hotspot.
>
> I have 3 mobile phones, all on Orange - 2 PAYG and one on Eq Virgin
> tariff. All have infra-red. I have a USB-based infra-red adaptor for the
> laptop.
>
> Can some kind soul please explain what the options are, in words of one
> syllable - 'cos I'm somewhat confused by what it says on the Orange site.
> My 3 phones are a Nokia 6070 on the OVP tariff - a free upgrade for the
> S-E-K300i (now with a PAYG SIM in it), itself a free upgrade for the
> original Nokia 6150e (also now having a PAYG SIM) - but I can mix and
> match phones and SIMs if there is any advantage in doing so.
<snip>
>
I hope you have a lot of patience, cos none of those phones are 3g
which you need for effective speeds.

I used to use a Nokia 6310i on Orange world �1 daily to connect my laptop,
it's a good way to fall asleep

Steve Terry


From: Ivor Hardone on 16 Jun 2008 15:07

"Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk(a)tesco.net> wrote in message
news:g3402s$div$1(a)news.albasani.net...
> >
> I hope you have a lot of patience, cos none of those phones are 3g
> which you need for effective speeds.
>
> I used to use a Nokia 6310i on Orange world �1 daily to connect my laptop,
> it's a good way to fall asleep
>
> Steve Terry

I use the service with a phone as a modem occasionally and it works OK.
Slow 'obviously', but not useless and certainly better than nothing if you
want to get online from a place where there is no fixed line.....




From: Steve Terry on 16 Jun 2008 16:03

"Ivor Hardone" <9808gfh7675636(a)private-email.net> wrote in message
news:6bnrvhF3cvvkvU1(a)mid.individual.net...
> "Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk(a)tesco.net> wrote in message
> news:g3402s$div$1(a)news.albasani.net...
>> >
>> I hope you have a lot of patience, cos none of those phones are 3g
>> which you need for effective speeds.
>> I used to use a Nokia 6310i on Orange world �1 daily to connect my
>> laptop,
>> it's a good way to fall asleep
>> Steve Terry
>
> I use the service with a phone as a modem occasionally and it works OK.
> Slow 'obviously', but not useless and certainly better than nothing if you
> want to get online from a place where there is no fixed line.....
>
I would rather buy a used Nokia 6630 with a 3 PAYG sim,
then for from 5quid a month, I'd have something useable.

Wait a min that's what I'm doing.

Only now I would look for a Nokia 6120 for it's turbo modem
which could be up to 4 times faster than i've got, on a 3.5G cell

Steve Terry


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