From: nlcw on
When looking at a c64 related site I found something interesting in it.
The Video Backup System.. on the site it says that this device:

VBS (Video Backup System) "turns any VCR into a reliable, inexpensive backup
device - store large floppy disk collections or entire hard disk on video
tape - 200Mb on 4 hour tape", LC5K3 LCD Calculator.

Would anyone out there own or used one of these devices?.. were these
devices very popular?

check out http://www.webs4u.co.nz/museum/inside-m.html for more info.

nlcw.


From: nlcw on
Oops, ignore the bit about the "LC5K3 LCD Calculator."
lol

nlcw.

"nlcw" <nlcw(a)iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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> When looking at a c64 related site I found something interesting in it.
> The Video Backup System.. on the site it says that this device:
>
> VBS (Video Backup System) "turns any VCR into a reliable, inexpensive
> backup device - store large floppy disk collections or entire hard disk on
> video tape - 200Mb on 4 hour tape", LC5K3 LCD Calculator.
>
> Would anyone out there own or used one of these devices?.. were these
> devices very popular?
>
> check out http://www.webs4u.co.nz/museum/inside-m.html for more info.
>
> nlcw.
>
>


From: madcrow on
nlcw wrote:
> When looking at a c64 related site I found something interesting in it.
> The Video Backup System.. on the site it says that this device:
>
> VBS (Video Backup System) "turns any VCR into a reliable, inexpensive backup
> device - store large floppy disk collections or entire hard disk on video
> tape - 200Mb on 4 hour tape"
>
> Would anyone out there own or used one of these devices?.. were these
> devices very popular?
>
> check out http://www.webs4u.co.nz/museum/inside-m.html for more info.
>
> nlcw.

I had fantasized about the existence of such a device that could be
used as mass storage on the cheap... Nice to know that somebody
actually built one of these back in the day.

Madcrow Mike

From: Ville Muikkula on
nlcw <nlcw(a)iinet.net.au> wrote:

> VBS (Video Backup System) "turns any VCR into a reliable, inexpensive
> backup device - store large floppy disk collections or entire hard disk
> on video tape - 200Mb on 4 hour tape"
> Would anyone out there own or used one of these devices?.. were these
> devices very popular?

I have a similar product in storage. That one is called Danmere Backer.
It is a PC ISA card. The technology actually works, but there are some
downsides:
- The data transfer rate is quite slow (about 4 megabytes/minute).
- VHS tapes are not designed for digital data storage. It is possible to
use error correction codes, but poor tape quality can still cause some
data loss.
- VHS tapes are expensive compared to CD-R
From: David Murray on

> I have a similar product in storage. That one is called Danmere Backer.
> It is a PC ISA card. The technology actually works, but there are some
> downsides:

Wow.. That is a nice collection. I actually have about all the same
equipment, but i have no place to display it all at once, like this guy
has.

Question about the VHS thing. Would this device be designed to plug
into a VCR's video input/output and generate a signal that looks like
an NTSC signal to the VCR. Or does it have its own tape mechanism for
reading and writing to the tape? I would think the first option would
be the cheapest, but the second option would be the most efficient.

I have actually dreamed of using my digital camcorder as a backup
device. I have seen a program for Linux that will turn data into a
firewire video stream for your camcorder, but I haven't found anything
for Windows or Mac that will do this. But I think you can get around
20 GB of data on a digital camcorder tape in this way.

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