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From: Marcus on 1 Dec 2006 22:18
Hello Chaps,

Thinking of buying Windows Vista when it comes out next year, the upgrade
version will probably be much cheaper than the full version, I would imagine
that when installing an upgrade version it will ask for an old version
Windows disk to verify that the install is an upgrade. My Question is will a
Dell reinstall CD qualify as a full product, the CD is labelled "Operating
System, Reinstallation CD, Microsoft Windows XP Professional", when I insert
the CD on my homebuilt system it runs the start of the XP installation
program ( I know I wouldn't be able to use it as my PC does not have a dell
motherboard) so it seems like an XP disk, do you think this would work or am
I going to have to pay hundreds more and buy the full version.

The alterative would be to buy a new copy of XP with a free Vista upgrade
voucher inside, I can get Xp MCE Oem for �95 which would give me a free
upgrade to Vista Home Premium when it comes out.

I am going to Newyork next Feb, if I bought a copy of Xp with voucher or
even Vista it's self would it would OK in the UK ??, It is only about �55 in
USA (New Egg)

Thanks

Marcus


From: RussellS on 2 Dec 2006 04:36

"Marcus" <tonymarcus44(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:TLSdncjh-9Xzbe3YRVnygg(a)pipex.net...
> Hello Chaps,
>
> Thinking of buying Windows Vista when it comes out next year, the upgrade
> version will probably be much cheaper than the full version, I would
> imagine that when installing an upgrade version it will ask for an old
> version Windows disk to verify that the install is an upgrade. My Question
> is will a Dell reinstall CD qualify as a full product, the CD is labelled
> "Operating System, Reinstallation CD, Microsoft Windows XP Professional",
> when I insert the CD on my homebuilt system it runs the start of the XP
> installation program ( I know I wouldn't be able to use it as my PC does
> not have a dell motherboard) so it seems like an XP disk, do you think
> this would work or am I going to have to pay hundreds more and buy the
> full version.
>
> The alterative would be to buy a new copy of XP with a free Vista upgrade
> voucher inside, I can get Xp MCE Oem for �95 which would give me a free
> upgrade to Vista Home Premium when it comes out.
>
> I am going to Newyork next Feb, if I bought a copy of Xp with voucher or
> even Vista it's self would it would OK in the UK ??, It is only about �55
> in USA (New Egg)
>
> Thanks
>
> Marcus
>
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Hi Marcus,

Actually, Microsoft is changing things a bit for the upcoming Vista upgrade
versions. With XP and prior, you could boot with the upgrade version
installation disc(s), then when prompted, temporarily insert the previous OS
installation disc to verify eligibility. The Vista upgrade DVD will now
require that a qualifying OS is already installed on the drive, and the
upgrade can only be run from within Windows. It can, however, perform a
clean installation upon it's first reboot, having saved your previous OS
settings, if desired, to a newly created directory, then
formatting/installing the version of Vista that you have the product key
for. The full version DVDs will be bootable and you can install cleanly
onto a blank drive, but the upgrade DVDs will require a qualifying OS
already installed on the drive. The Dell version of your previous OS is
eligible to use the upgrade version.

-Russell
http://tastycomputers.com


From: Marcus on 2 Dec 2006 06:17

"RussellS" <rsullivan(a)tastycomputers.com(replace_dot_with_.)> wrote in
message news:GYadnd2GaOe71OzYnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d(a)comcast.com...
>
> "Marcus" <tonymarcus44(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:TLSdncjh-9Xzbe3YRVnygg(a)pipex.net...
>> Hello Chaps,
>>
>> Thinking of buying Windows Vista when it comes out next year, the upgrade
>> version will probably be much cheaper than the full version, I would
>> imagine that when installing an upgrade version it will ask for an old
>> version Windows disk to verify that the install is an upgrade. My
>> Question is will a Dell reinstall CD qualify as a full product, the CD is
>> labelled "Operating System, Reinstallation CD, Microsoft Windows XP
>> Professional", when I insert the CD on my homebuilt system it runs the
>> start of the XP installation program ( I know I wouldn't be able to use
>> it as my PC does not have a dell motherboard) so it seems like an XP
>> disk, do you think this would work or am I going to have to pay hundreds
>> more and buy the full version.
>>
>> The alterative would be to buy a new copy of XP with a free Vista upgrade
>> voucher inside, I can get Xp MCE Oem for �95 which would give me a free
>> upgrade to Vista Home Premium when it comes out.
>>
>> I am going to Newyork next Feb, if I bought a copy of Xp with voucher or
>> even Vista it's self would it would OK in the UK ??, It is only about �55
>> in USA (New Egg)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Marcus
>>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Hi Marcus,
>
> Actually, Microsoft is changing things a bit for the upcoming Vista
> upgrade versions. With XP and prior, you could boot with the upgrade
> version installation disc(s), then when prompted, temporarily insert the
> previous OS installation disc to verify eligibility. The Vista upgrade
> DVD will now require that a qualifying OS is already installed on the
> drive, and the upgrade can only be run from within Windows. It can,
> however, perform a clean installation upon it's first reboot, having saved
> your previous OS settings, if desired, to a newly created directory, then
> formatting/installing the version of Vista that you have the product key
> for. The full version DVDs will be bootable and you can install cleanly
> onto a blank drive, but the upgrade DVDs will require a qualifying OS
> already installed on the drive. The Dell version of your previous OS is
> eligible to use the upgrade version.
>
> -Russell
> http://tastycomputers.com
>
Hello Russell,

Thanks for the reply, what would happen if I didn't have a hard drive with
Windows Xp already on it, say I was doing a new build with a blank hard
drive or my hard drive failed ?

What do you think to me buying a copy of Win Xp Media Centre edition OEM
with a free upgrade voucher to Win Vista Home Premium in the USA and
installing in the UK ?

Marcus


From: Eddie on 2 Dec 2006 12:56

"Marcus" <tonymarcus44(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "RussellS" <rsullivan(a)tastycomputers.com(replace_dot_with_.)> wrote in
> message news:GYadnd2GaOe71OzYnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d(a)comcast.com...
>>
>> "Marcus" <tonymarcus44(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:TLSdncjh-9Xzbe3YRVnygg(a)pipex.net...
>>> Hello Chaps,
>>>
>>> Thinking of buying Windows Vista when it comes out next year, the
>>> upgrade version will probably be much cheaper than the full version, I
>>> would imagine that when installing an upgrade version it will ask for an
>>> old version Windows disk to verify that the install is an upgrade. My
>>> Question is will a Dell reinstall CD qualify as a full product, the CD
>>> is labelled "Operating System, Reinstallation CD, Microsoft Windows XP
>>> Professional", when I insert the CD on my homebuilt system it runs the
>>> start of the XP installation program ( I know I wouldn't be able to use
>>> it as my PC does not have a dell motherboard) so it seems like an XP
>>> disk, do you think this would work or am I going to have to pay hundreds
>>> more and buy the full version.
>>>
>>> The alterative would be to buy a new copy of XP with a free Vista
>>> upgrade voucher inside, I can get Xp MCE Oem for �95 which would give me
>>> a free upgrade to Vista Home Premium when it comes out.
>>>
>>> I am going to Newyork next Feb, if I bought a copy of Xp with voucher or
>>> even Vista it's self would it would OK in the UK ??, It is only about
>>> �55 in USA (New Egg)
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>> Hi Marcus,
>>
>> Actually, Microsoft is changing things a bit for the upcoming Vista
>> upgrade versions. With XP and prior, you could boot with the upgrade
>> version installation disc(s), then when prompted, temporarily insert the
>> previous OS installation disc to verify eligibility. The Vista upgrade
>> DVD will now require that a qualifying OS is already installed on the
>> drive, and the upgrade can only be run from within Windows. It can,
>> however, perform a clean installation upon it's first reboot, having
>> saved your previous OS settings, if desired, to a newly created
>> directory, then formatting/installing the version of Vista that you have
>> the product key for. The full version DVDs will be bootable and you can
>> install cleanly onto a blank drive, but the upgrade DVDs will require a
>> qualifying OS already installed on the drive. The Dell version of your
>> previous OS is eligible to use the upgrade version.
>>
>> -Russell
>> http://tastycomputers.com
>>
> Hello Russell,
>
> Thanks for the reply, what would happen if I didn't have a hard drive with
> Windows Xp already on it, say I was doing a new build with a blank hard
> drive or my hard drive failed ?
>
> What do you think to me buying a copy of Win Xp Media Centre edition OEM
> with a free upgrade voucher to Win Vista Home Premium in the USA and
> installing in the UK ?
>
> Marcus

That's maybe OK in the first instance but what happens when your vista
system crashes and you have to rebuild? Do you have to install XP first?
That would be ridiculous!!!

Eddie


>


From: RAID!!! on 2 Dec 2006 16:25
On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 11:17:02 -0700, RussellS wrote:

>It just has changed as
> far as how the installation routine begins; it requires to be initiated
> within Windows.

And I bet the only reason they did this was because they figured it would
force more people to opt for the more expensive full version - bastages.
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