WISP Routing into house WiFi network
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From: P.Schuman on 17 Apr 2008 13:01 tkasprow(a)gmail.com wrote: > On 5 Kwi, 20:17, "P.Schuman" <pschuman_no_spam...(a)interserv.com> > wrote: >> <tkasp...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:bfb9a426-f7dd-4839-86ab-be13855bcc3b(a)e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> >> >>> Hello >> >>> At my house I receive Internet trough WiFi (not very typical). There >>> is antenna on top of my house and is connected to wireless card in >>> my desktop PC. I want to create a new wireless network that would >>> cover my house. Therefore I am trying to find a router that would >>> route between external WiFi network and my (to be created) home >>> WiFi network however I cannot locate appropriate hardware. >> >>> Could anyone help me with identifing approporiate solution? (the >>> only thing that comes to my mind so far are two routers that route >>> between LAN/WiFi but I look for simpler solution) >> >>> Thanks in advance >> >>> Tomek >> >> a little more info on what is on the roof >> or a link to your WISP would be helpful. >> Also - is the wireless card in your PC something standard, >> or is the WISP using something "different" ? >> >> Since you already have a WiFi signal broadcasting from your roof >> to your PC - then it might cover the rest of the house, >> if you can have other WiFi computers connecting to the roof ?- Ukryj >> cytowany tekst - >> >> - Poka� cytowany tekst - > > WISP is very local and website is only in my native language (Polish). > The card in my PC is regular WiFi card linked to an anntena on the > roof. The signal is too faint indors to be of any use. Morover only > the card provided by WISP cann connect (MAC) - they say I can clon the > MAC to a router if I like. Can we have your WISP website URL - even if in Polish. Is your computer actually connected to the roof via wireless ? seems then that the roof has back to back wireless access points. or an Ethernet cable running from your computer to the roof ? How does the roof equipment get power ? I would think something like a Linksys WAP54G acting as a "repeater mode" might be a choice ? What does the WISP suggest ?
From: tkasprow on 18 Apr 2008 11:55 The website is http://portal.kg.net.pl/ My computer is connected to the antena on the roof. There is no access point or router on the roof. Ther is just antenna connected to wireless card in my PC via antena port hence there is no power source required. Repeater might not work because (as far as I understand - and I may be wrong) it just propagates the same network extending its coverage. This will not work for me as I have just one IP addrress assigned that is paired with MAC on the wireless card. The only imporvement I could get through a repeater would be that (if I assigned the same MAC to all computers) I could have any computer connected to the network but only one at a time. WISP suggested: access point with clonned MAC (I could not find this founctionality on access point I am familiar with - only routers) connected to the roof antena and then access point connected to wireles router (LAN/WiFi router would be needed then - not a very standard piece of equipment either - but possible to find in contrast to WiFi/WiFi router which I am looking for. So far only modular Cisco router suggested by Bill Kearney seem to have such capability but the price is prohibitive).
From: PS56k on 19 Apr 2008 00:26 tkasprow(a)gmail.com wrote: > The website is http://portal.kg.net.pl/ > > My computer is connected to the antena on the roof. There is no access > point or router on the roof. Ther is just antenna connected to > wireless card in my PC via antena port hence there is no power source > required. thanks - that is VERY DIFFERENT that what we all probably thought. We thought you had a "wireless" connection to the roof, not an antenna cable running from your desktop wireless card to the roof just like a TV set.... > Repeater might not work because (as far as I understand - and I may be > wrong) it just propagates the same network extending its coverage. > This will not work for me as I have just one IP addrress assigned that > is paired with MAC on the wireless card. The only imporvement I could > get through a repeater would be that (if I assigned the same MAC to > all computers) I could have any computer connected to the network but > only one at a time. > > WISP suggested: access point with clonned MAC (I could not find this > founctionality on access point I am familiar with - only routers) > connected to the roof antena and then access point connected to > wireles router (LAN/WiFi router would be needed then - not a very > standard piece of equipment either - but possible to find in contrast > to WiFi/WiFi router which I am looking for. So far only modular Cisco > router suggested by Bill Kearney seem to have such capability but the > price is prohibitive).
From: seaweedsl on 19 Apr 2008 18:15 On Apr 18, 10:55 am, tkasp...(a)gmail.com wrote: .. > > WISP suggested: access point with clonned MAC (I could not find this > founctionality on access point I am familiar with - only routers) > connected to the roof antena and then access point connected to > wireles router (LAN/WiFi router would be needed then - not a very > standard piece of equipment either - but possible to find in contrast > to WiFi/WiFi router which I am looking for. So far only modular Cisco > router suggested by Bill Kearney seem to have such capability but the > price is prohibitive). What your WISP suggests is a good solution. This is also what Bill Kearney was suggesting as your better choice in the long run. The cheaper, but perhaps more troublesome solution is to use Window''s - Internet Connection Sharing - feature to bridge the WISP card in your pc to an ethernet card. An ethernet cable would go out from there to a wireless router. This router would route and act as AP for the rest of the pcs, I believe. I don't know much about this, but your pc must be on all the time, and I've heard that there are problems with ICS. Best is to get two wireless routers, at least one of which accepts DD- WRT or Tomato replacement firmwares. These firmwares are free and give your router various modes and settings and should do what you need. For one of them, you will set it to Client mode and use MAC cloning to copy the MAC of the WISP card. That one will used as a Wireless Ethernet Client, connecting to the antenna. It will act as a radio to them and bridge for you over ethernet cable. This cable can then connect to the second router which you will use as a Router and Wireless AP to your various home computers. http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page In Europe, the Buffalo line of routers should be availible and the WHR- G54 is a good inexpensive router for DD-WRT. Also the Linksys WRT54GL (L is important) or the ASUS routers work well. Check DD-WRT list of compatible routers to be sure. http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices If you don't want to go with the special firmware, then buy one device that is called a Client Bridge/AP (make sure it has Client mode and MAC cloning) and one common wireless router. The wireless routers are the common devices sold, but Client/APs are also availible for reasonable prices (in the US). However, I think that most would recommend a DD-WRT capable router (or two) to be sure you will have all the features and support. If you don't want to get involved with flashing the firmware, the DD-WRT store has offered routers pre-flashed for sale at times. They are in Germany, I believe. Don't forget about connecting the antenna cable now coming into your computer. You need to know what kind of connector it has and make sure your Client device matches. Most wireless devices use RP-sma, but Linksys uses RP-TNC. Ask your WISP if not sure. Steve
From: seaweedsl on 19 Apr 2008 18:28
On Apr 19, 5:15 pm, seaweedsl <seaweedst...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > This is also what Bill > Kearney was suggesting as your better choice in the long run. > Re-reading, not so sure what Bill meant ! |