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From: Simon Waters on 11 Aug 2005 17:40
Ewan Mac Mahon wrote:
> On Wednesday, 10 August, Simon Waters wrote:
>
>>where as the Netgear you just had to login to the webpage, and
>>type in your username and password from the ADSL provider (being a
>>techie I typed in much more,
>
> Might I ask what? I've just acquired a Netgear ADSL router for a non-techy
> family member; I'm not going to have long to set it up so I'd like to get
> as much useful stuff going up front as possible.

Oh reserving IP addresses for printers in DHCP settings (hopefully it
pings the IP first before allocating it again like good DHCP servers,
but you can't rely on things powering up in order), changing the default
password, changing displayed names, nothing deeply technical, mostly
dotting i's and crossing t's.

For my own use I'll probably do a load of port forwarding for
GnomeMeeting, but for the less ambitious user I think it is best to
leave NAT as a basic "firewall" with no extra holes.
From: 007*** on 14 Aug 2005 06:17
Simon Waters wrote:
> Ewan Mac Mahon wrote:
>
>>On Wednesday, 10 August, Simon Waters wrote:
>>
>>
>>>where as the Netgear you just had to login to the webpage, and
>>>type in your username and password from the ADSL provider (being a
>>>techie I typed in much more,
>>
>>Might I ask what? I've just acquired a Netgear ADSL router for a non-techy
>>family member; I'm not going to have long to set it up so I'd like to get
>>as much useful stuff going up front as possible.
>
>
> Oh reserving IP addresses for printers in DHCP settings (hopefully it
> pings the IP first before allocating it again like good DHCP servers,
> but you can't rely on things powering up in order), changing the default
> password, changing displayed names, nothing deeply technical, mostly
> dotting i's and crossing t's.
>
> For my own use I'll probably do a load of port forwarding for
> GnomeMeeting, but for the less ambitious user I think it is best to
> leave NAT as a basic "firewall" with no extra holes.

Thanks to all again.
So we all agree I need a modem/router then I can connect to any ISP (ADSL)?
In the mean time is it possible to connect to the internet through my
Hub on a standard 56k connection and share files/printers like I do with
the windoze box.

I have samba installed but cannot configure to see the other widoze
computer.

I have pinged the ip address but it says the network is unreachable.

Ian.
From: Keith Matthews on 14 Aug 2005 08:15
007*** wrote:


> Thanks to all again.
> So we all agree I need a modem/router then I can connect to any ISP
> (ADSL)? In the mean time is it possible to connect to the internet through
> my Hub on a standard 56k connection and share files/printers like I do
> with the windoze box.
>

If you really mean use Samba sharing over the public internet then the
advice is *DON'T do it*

Apart from the underlying protocol being wide open to the
'man-in-the-middle' attack it is likely to expose machines at both ends to
a wide range of attacks hoping for badly configured systems.


If you must share filesystems in such circumstances either set up a proper
VPN or use AFS.
From: 007*** on 14 Aug 2005 15:00
Keith Matthews wrote:
> 007*** wrote:
>
>
>
>>Thanks to all again.
>>So we all agree I need a modem/router then I can connect to any ISP
>>(ADSL)? In the mean time is it possible to connect to the internet through
>>my Hub on a standard 56k connection and share files/printers like I do
>>with the windoze box.
>>
>
>
> If you really mean use Samba sharing over the public internet then the
> advice is *DON'T do it*
>
> Apart from the underlying protocol being wide open to the
> 'man-in-the-middle' attack it is likely to expose machines at both ends to
> a wide range of attacks hoping for badly configured systems.
>
>
> If you must share filesystems in such circumstances either set up a proper
> VPN or use AFS.
I see were your coming from but I just want to connect to my Widoze
machine using Linux, do I use Samba? In order to share files. What do I
need to configure. What do I have to do on the Widoze machine?

Ian
From: anahata on 14 Aug 2005 15:38
007*** wrote:
> I see were your coming from but I just want to connect to my Widoze
> machine using Linux, do I use Samba? In order to share files. What do I
> need to configure. What do I have to do on the Widoze machine?

To see file shares on a windows machine from Linux, you can use
smbclient which is part of samba. Last time I looked it was a rather
crude ftp-like command line client, good for occasional use in an
emergency but not very handy for general file sharing. Of course you
have to enable sharing of the resources on Windows too.

I'm not sure whether you can mount a remote windows drive to just appear
in your file system like you can with NFS between Linu boxes. Of course
Samba works fine the other way round, where part of the Linux file
system appears under a "mapped network drive" letter on Windows.

But earlier you said you couldn't ping the Windows machine from Linux,
so either you've got a lower level connectivity problem or if it's XP
maybe you need to get into the firewall and enable ICMP EQHO requests
(been there, done that recently...)

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