From: Alan Hoyle on
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:20:49, Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:
> On 2008-04-23, Alan Hoyle <alanh(a)unc.edu> wrote:
>> I've been a palm user since a PalmPilot Professional. I've been using
>> a TX for just under 2 years now, and while it's a decent device, the
>> serious limitations on the web browser have made me yearn for
>> something else. I've tried Opera Mini, Blazer, and NetFront, but I'm
>> still disappointed by all of them.
>>
>> Does there exist a non-phone replacement (of any OS) that includes a
>> good browser (ala Nokia n810/iPod Touch) that also includes good PDA
>> functions (i.e. addressbook/calendar)?

> I'm in the exact same boat. I'm -> <- this close to buying an n810 and
> using the Garnet VM <http://www.access-company.com/products/gvm/> for
> PDA functionality. My main hesitation is in how well the VM is integrated.
> E.g., I rely heavily on DateBk alarms -- I don't know how well those work
> with the VM (i.e. do they work as system sounds).

> But, right now, the n800/n810 seems to be the best option.

I have exactly the same problem, DateBk6 and everything. Does anyone
know how the n810 w/VM works as for PIM/Alarms? Brighthand's n810
review had a note that they were going to post a followup
article/review/commentary on that exact issue, but I never saw the
article.

Quoting: http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=13497

[...referring to ACCESS Emulator...] "However, I have not yet
experimented with this much, and it's such a large topic that I'm
going to cover it in a separate article."

I do remember reading somewhere that the n810 doesn't really have a
screen-off "sleep" mode, which might limit its usefulness in this
respect, but I would want confirmation before discarding this idea.

The rumors of an iPod Touch Palm emulator are also promising, but then
the supposed limitation on "one app at a time" doesn't sound very
promising either.

-alan

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From: Ennev on
To: Jim Anderson
Wait for the apps later this summer. That may change everything.

I bet that any major apps maker that use to had great product on the palm os
platform are already playing with the ipod's SDK at this moment.

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> In article <6799sbF2nmc2cU1(a)mid.individual.net>, alanh(a)unc.edu says...
>> I've been a palm user since a PalmPilot Professional. I've been using
>> a TX for just under 2 years now, and while it's a decent device, the
>> serious limitations on the web browser have made me yearn for
>> something else. I've tried Opera Mini, Blazer, and NetFront, but I'm
>> still disappointed by all of them.
>>
>> Does there exist a non-phone replacement (of any OS) that includes a
>> good browser (ala Nokia n810/iPod Touch) that also includes good PDA
>> functions (i.e. addressbook/calendar)?
>>
>> It just doesn't seem like such a beast exists.
>>
>> -alan
>>
>>
> Best web browser is on the iPhone, but terrable as a PDA.
>
> Try <http://www.myproductadvisor.com/mpa/home.do> it does a great job of
> finding the perfect device for your needs.
From: DevilsPGD on
In message <481136AB.1577.palmpalm002(a)mtlgeek.synchro.net> "Ennev"
<ennev(a)mtlgeek.synchro.net.remove-omq-this> wrote:

>I bet that any major apps maker that use to had great product on the palm os
>platform are already playing with the ipod's SDK at this moment.

You'd lose that bet, there is at least one who is not.

The lack of a functional way to rapidly enter data is a dealbreaker for
many users, and compounding that the API limitations have scared off at
least one fairly major software vendor.

An NDA prohibits me from spelling out which one, but if you've owned a
Palm in the last five years and installed the software included on the
CD, odds are very good you have at least a passing familiarity with
their software.
From: Jeffrey Kaplan on
Previously on comp.sys.palmtops.pilot, DevilsPGD said:

> The lack of a functional way to rapidly enter data is a dealbreaker for
> many users, and compounding that the API limitations have scared off at
> least one fairly major software vendor.

Then that "major software vendor" is going to miss out on a potentially
big market. I know several people who now have an iPhone, and none of
them have problems quickly entering text. I've tried out the keyboard
on the iPhone and I find it to be no worse than the keyboard on the
Treo, and in some ways better.

> An NDA prohibits me from spelling out which one, but if you've owned a
> Palm in the last five years and installed the software included on the
> CD, odds are very good you have at least a passing familiarity with
> their software.

I don't suppose you'll confirm or deny a guess, but I'm going to guess
DataViz (Documents To Go is the app in question).

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From: DevilsPGD on
In message <ju9m149u8g31nbct7cqg3quqpbturhmi20(a)gordol.org> Jeffrey
Kaplan <nomail(a)gordol.org> wrote:

>On the Palm, there are Categories which are very clearly differentiated
>from program icons because they're part of the launcher's UI, not mixed
>in with the programs. In Windows (desktop), folders have a Folder icon
>(unless the user changes it). In WinMob, there is no visual difference
>between a folder icon and a program icon. There is also no way to tell
>from positional listing if the icon is for a folder or a program,
>because the icons were not in any kind of order I could determine - not
>by type, not by name, and not by date.

I think we must have purchased very different versions of Windows
Mobile, but on mine, the "Programs" section sorts folders alphabetically
at the top, and programs alphabetically at the bottom.

Folders and programs can all have customized icons, but the folders all
have a definite "folder" with a small icon in front, none of my
installed apps have anything folder-like except for "File Explorer"
(which makes sense, although it's a poor icon choice)