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From: zach on 8 Jul 2008 00:43 Hey everyone!! :) I'm new to the whole liquid cooling of the computer case and everything, and was just wondering if someone could answer some questions? 1. Is there certain cases for watercooling, or are most compatible for watercooling (I have a Full ATX tower, so room isnt a problem..) 2. Can you buy a kit, that will cool CPU, Video card chipset, or possible everythindg including HDD?? 3.Are they really safe?? do your run the risk of something happening and frying everything?? 4. And will it really take out the need for most fans in your case?? Will you still need a fan to cool the HDD, and your chipset etc?? Thanks for any answers you might have :)
From: John Doe on 8 Jul 2008 00:49 zach <zachvek(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > I'm new to the whole liquid cooling of the computer case > and everythindg including HDD?? Water cooling your case and hard drive? > Will you still need a fan to cool the HDD Buy a case with an intake fan (preferably with a filter in front of it) blowing over the hard drive rack. -- My big wheel in-line street skates (a.k.a. rollerblades). http://www.flickr.com/photos/27532210(a)N04/2565924423/ Google Groups is destroying the USENET archive, to hell with Google.
From: Paul on 8 Jul 2008 01:22 zach wrote: > Hey everyone!! :) > I'm new to the whole liquid cooling of the computer case and > everything, and was just wondering if someone could answer some > questions? > > 1. Is there certain cases for watercooling, or are most compatible for > watercooling (I have a Full ATX tower, so room isnt a problem..) > > 2. Can you buy a kit, that will cool CPU, Video card chipset, or > possible everythindg including HDD?? > > 3.Are they really safe?? do your run the risk of something happening > and frying everything?? > > 4. And will it really take out the need for most fans in your case?? > Will you still need a fan to cool the HDD, and your chipset etc?? > > Thanks for any answers you might have :) There is a water cooling forum here. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&f=70 There are a few sticky posts, to help first time builders. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=54331 Some components in your computer, have built-in safety systems. The processor, for example, has THERMTRIP. If the hose fell off your CPU water block, the computer would shut off before the CPU was damaged. Other components may not have protection, or you may not be able to get detailed information about them, before you build. For example, I don't know if a GPU possesses enough features, to turn off the GPU regulators on the video card, if the GPU is overheating. You would not want to fry an expensive video card, due to a hose falling off, or a leak draining all the fluid from the loop. If I was doing it, I'd want an external radiator, to leave more room in the computer case, and more room for some air circulation for components not having water blocks. You should still have at least one fan in the case, to help provide a flow of air for the hard drive, for example. If you are overclocking, then you may want a fan pointed at the MOSFETS, coils, and Vcore circuit. Or, you may want to position a fan over top of the four sticks of RAM. Whether that is necessary, depends on what you're overclocking and by how much. If you aren't overclocking, I'd still want an exhaust fan on the back of the computer case. If you eliminate all fans, then heat will build up inside the case, to a level sufficient to overheat the hard drive. If you have bushels of money to spend, there are other techniques for cooling. For example, for >$1000 or so, you can get a Zalman case that uses heatpipe coolers. But there is no question, that you can handle more heat with a water system - it is just a matter of enough flow, and a big enough radiator, and some cool air somewhere to cool the radiator. TNN500AF - heatpipes conduct heat into the computer case walls and fins The capacity of the included power supply, helps limit how much hardware gets put in the box. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/zalman-tnn500af_3.html Paul
From: "Ed Medlin" ed on 8 Jul 2008 11:30 "zach" <zachvek(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:e5d64047-b357-4eeb-a8ce-74b6c126f73c(a)z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > Hey everyone!! :) > I'm new to the whole liquid cooling of the computer case and > everything, and was just wondering if someone could answer some > questions? > > 1. Is there certain cases for watercooling, or are most compatible for > watercooling (I have a Full ATX tower, so room isnt a problem..) > www.swiftech.com has about everything for liquid cooling. I have one of their Quiet Power cases that has the radiator, pump, tank and a waterblock for the cpu already installed. All fans are large, low rpm fans and are pretty much silent at low to medium settings and a bit noisy if you crank them all to max speed, but I have never needed to. > 2. Can you buy a kit, that will cool CPU, Video card chipset, or > possible everythindg including HDD?? > Above link. > 3.Are they really safe?? do your run the risk of something happening > and frying everything?? > Water cooling has been around a long time and it is down to a science now. It is very safe as long as you follow the directions. > 4. And will it really take out the need for most fans in your case?? > Will you still need a fan to cool the HDD, and your chipset etc?? > Liquid cooling doesn't change the basic rules for case ventilation, it just makes it somewhat quieter and more efficient. You still need to either liquid cool or blow air over everything that gets hot like chipsets, video cards, hdds, etc. Swiftech sells waterblocks for about everything. I have used Swiftech products for a long time. I have used liquid cooling since the P2/P3 days. > Thanks for any answers you might have :) Hope I helped......Good luck. Ed
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