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From: Ben Bacarisse on 15 Apr 2008 10:43
Has anyone else had trouble logging in to 18185.co.uk?

The site is a nightmare of JavaScript (required even for navigation)
and badly-formed HTML so I am not exactly sure what is happening and
why but I get a connection timeout when I try to get past the log in
window.

This is with a fixed IP address, routed though my broadband connection.
Oddly, if I connect using the same router but with using DHCP so my
connection is NATed, I can log in.

Any ideas, similar experiences, etc? I *think* I've seen the same
behaviour on a Mac connecting to BT's billing pages (from here) so the
problem may be a general one about my network setup.

--
Ben.
From: Chris Davies on 15 Apr 2008 11:30
Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet(a)bsb.me.uk> wrote:
> Has anyone else had trouble logging in to 18185.co.uk?

It's ugly but it does work for me (firefox/iceweasel).


> This is with a fixed IP address, routed though my broadband connection.
> Oddly, if I connect using the same router but with using DHCP so my
> connection is NATed, I can log in.

My PC's on an internal (fixed) DHCP-delivered address. My router does
outbound NAT using its external static DHCP-delivered address.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by a "fixed IP address, routed through
my broadband connection", particularly as you then contrast it to
something that sounds like the same setup as my own network.

Hope this helps,
Chris
From: Ben Bacarisse on 15 Apr 2008 13:35
Chris Davies <chris-usenet(a)roaima.co.uk> writes:

> Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet(a)bsb.me.uk> wrote:
>> Has anyone else had trouble logging in to 18185.co.uk?
>
> It's ugly but it does work for me (firefox/iceweasel).
>
>> This is with a fixed IP address, routed though my broadband connection.
>> Oddly, if I connect using the same router but with using DHCP so my
>> connection is NATed, I can log in.
>
> My PC's on an internal (fixed) DHCP-delivered address. My router does
> outbound NAT using its external static DHCP-delivered address.
>
> I'm not quite sure what you mean by a "fixed IP address, routed through
> my broadband connection", particularly as you then contrast it to
> something that sounds like the same setup as my own network.

It was rather woolly wasn't it? Basically it seems to work if my
router is doing NAT and not otherwise.

The normal way for me to connect is with a public (routed) IP address
-- one of a fixed subnet of 8 allocated to me by my ISP years ago. I
am having trouble imagining what is wrong with my network set up that
prevents only this one page from working.

I think it may be time to wireshark the working version and compare
with the broken set up. At least that would expose what the page is
doing with all that JS that is not always working.

--
Ben.
From: Martin Burke on 16 Apr 2008 14:38
Ben Bacarisse wrote:

> Has anyone else had trouble logging in to 18185.co.uk?
>
> The site is a nightmare of JavaScript (required even for navigation)
> and badly-formed HTML so I am not exactly sure what is happening and
> why but I get a connection timeout when I try to get past the log in
> window.
>
> This is with a fixed IP address, routed though my broadband connection.
> Oddly, if I connect using the same router but with using DHCP so my
> connection is NATed, I can log in.
>
> Any ideas, similar experiences, etc? I *think* I've seen the same
> behaviour on a Mac connecting to BT's billing pages (from here) so the
> problem may be a general one about my network setup.
>
> --
> Ben.

Works perfectly fine for me on all of the computers at home, all going
through a BTHomehub - Two wireless one through the mains ;)

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From: Ben Bacarisse on 17 Apr 2008 10:19
Martin Burke <mlburke(a)btinternet.com> writes:

> Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>
>> Has anyone else had trouble logging in to 18185.co.uk?
<snip>
>> This is with a fixed IP address, routed though my broadband connection.
>> Oddly, if I connect using the same router but with using DHCP so my
>> connection is NATed, I can log in.
<snip>
> Works perfectly fine for me on all of the computers at home, all going
> through a BTHomehub - Two wireless one through the mains ;)

Thanks. I guess that is a NATed service?

--
Ben.
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