Wedding Planning Sites - NOT unethical
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From: Chilly8 on 16 Jan 2008 16:55 X-No-Archive: Yes "Jason" <Jason(a)invalid.address.lan> wrote in message news:2Zojj.6741$Ya2.4936(a)fe115.usenetserver.com... >* Chilly8 <chilly8(a)hotmail.com>: >> X-No-Archive: Yes >> >> "Leythos" <void(a)nowhere.lan> wrote in message >> news:MPG.21f7c32810b96880989986(a)Adfree.usenet.com... >>> In article <fmkgho$558$1(a)aioe.org>, chilly8(a)hotmail.com says... >>>> Any employer that would ban sites for planning a WEDDING is >>>> NUTS. There is NOTHING unethical about using the company >>>> networks to surf wedding-related sites for planning a wedding. >>> >>> This is why you would be fired if you worked for someone. >>> >>> A company network is for COMPANY BUSINESS, NOT PERSONAL BUSINESS. >> >> >> A wedding is a verry SPECIAL occasion, and I see NOTHING >> wrong with surfing wedding-related sites from work, as long >> as you get your work done. >> >> > > Using company resources for non company things is likely against company > policy. What part of that are you having trouble with? I'd love to see > you actually own a company and have your staff doing what you suggest > instead of what you are paying them for. How quickly would you change > your tune? As long as they got their work done, I would not have a problem with that, or listening to online radio. As long as you get your work done, that is all that should matter.
From: Leythos on 16 Jan 2008 18:16 In article <fmludp$2k8$1(a)aioe.org>, chilly8(a)hotmail.com says... > Well, I don't care what people do on my proxy, as long as its > lawful in France and Mexico, where the main server, and > backup servers are, respectfively. If some "office drone" > wants to surf wedding sites through my proxy, they are > more then welcome to do so. And that's why all of us consider you an unethical person. -- Leythos - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
From: Chilly8 on 16 Jan 2008 19:58 X-No-Archive: Yes "Leythos" <void(a)nowhere.lan> wrote in message news:MPG.21f85a41334a24e298998a(a)Adfree.usenet.com... > In article <fmludp$2k8$1(a)aioe.org>, chilly8(a)hotmail.com says... >> Well, I don't care what people do on my proxy, as long as its >> lawful in France and Mexico, where the main server, and >> backup servers are, respectfively. If some "office drone" >> wants to surf wedding sites through my proxy, they are >> more then welcome to do so. > > And that's why all of us consider you an unethical person. Providing a public proxy is NOT unethical, and is LEGAL in France, and in Mexico, where my servers are. As long as what someone is doing in LEGAL in France, and in Mexico, I cannot be charged with any crime for operating a public proxy server. Because my servers are in France, and Mexico, they are ONLY subject to FRENCH and MEXICAN laws, and as long as what someone is doing does not violate either French or Mexican laws, I am in the clear.
From: Leythos on 16 Jan 2008 21:12 In article <fmm97m$4m8$1(a)aioe.org>, chilly8(a)hotmail.com says... > X-No-Archive: Yes > > "Leythos" <void(a)nowhere.lan> wrote in message > news:MPG.21f85a41334a24e298998a(a)Adfree.usenet.com... > > In article <fmludp$2k8$1(a)aioe.org>, chilly8(a)hotmail.com says... > >> Well, I don't care what people do on my proxy, as long as its > >> lawful in France and Mexico, where the main server, and > >> backup servers are, respectfively. If some "office drone" > >> wants to surf wedding sites through my proxy, they are > >> more then welcome to do so. > > > > And that's why all of us consider you an unethical person. > > Providing a public proxy is NOT unethical, and is LEGAL > in France, and in Mexico, where my servers are. As long > as what someone is doing in LEGAL in France, and in > Mexico, I cannot be charged with any crime for operating > a public proxy server. Because my servers are in France, > and Mexico, they are ONLY subject to FRENCH and > MEXICAN laws, and as long as what someone is > doing does not violate either French or Mexican laws, > I am in the clear. You are not in the clean then YOU ADVISE PEOPLE THAT BREAKING COMPANY POLICY IS PERMITTED, WHEN YOU ADVISE PEOPLE THAT THEY CAN NOT BE DETECTED OR MONITORED...... Your beliefs and statements are unethical, you tell people to violate company policy all the time in these groups. -- Leythos - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
From: Chilly8 on 17 Jan 2008 16:49
X-No-Archive: Yes "Leythos" <void(a)nowhere.lan> wrote in message news:MPG.21f88394687b550398998c(a)Adfree.usenet.com... > In article <fmm97m$4m8$1(a)aioe.org>, chilly8(a)hotmail.com says... >> X-No-Archive: Yes >> >> "Leythos" <void(a)nowhere.lan> wrote in message >> news:MPG.21f85a41334a24e298998a(a)Adfree.usenet.com... >> > In article <fmludp$2k8$1(a)aioe.org>, chilly8(a)hotmail.com says... >> >> Well, I don't care what people do on my proxy, as long as its >> >> lawful in France and Mexico, where the main server, and >> >> backup servers are, respectfively. If some "office drone" >> >> wants to surf wedding sites through my proxy, they are >> >> more then welcome to do so. >> > >> > And that's why all of us consider you an unethical person. >> >> Providing a public proxy is NOT unethical, and is LEGAL >> in France, and in Mexico, where my servers are. As long >> as what someone is doing in LEGAL in France, and in >> Mexico, I cannot be charged with any crime for operating >> a public proxy server. Because my servers are in France, >> and Mexico, they are ONLY subject to FRENCH and >> MEXICAN laws, and as long as what someone is >> doing does not violate either French or Mexican laws, >> I am in the clear. > > You are not in the clean then YOU ADVISE PEOPLE THAT BREAKING COMPANY > POLICY IS PERMITTED, WHEN YOU ADVISE PEOPLE THAT THEY CAN NOT BE > DETECTED OR MONITORED...... > > Your beliefs and statements are unethical, you tell people to violate > company policy all the time in these groups. I do it far more in the figure skating message boards. I often go into Figure Skating Universe or GoldenSkate, and tell people how to circumvent filtering system to access FSU or GS from work. Since NEITHER business (yes, both boards are run as a for-profit business) is based in the United States, ANY postings sent to either board is NOT SUBJECT to ANY United States law. So any posts I make on EITHER site telling people how to circumvent company filtering systems to get onto the board from work is NOT SUBJECT to ANY laws in the United States, becuase both businesses are based OUTSIDE the United States. Posts made to FSU, for example, are ONLY subject to BRITISH laws, because the business is based in BRITAIN. As such, the owners of Figure Skating Universe CANNOT BE COMPELLED to comply with ANY United States laws, and neither can anyone who reads from or posts to, the site. |