From: Leythos on
In article <fmsbmq$bqs$1(a)aioe.org>, chilly8(a)hotmail.com says...
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> "Leythos" <void(a)nowhere.lan> wrote in message
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> > In article <fmonun$755$1(a)aioe.org>, chilly8(a)hotmail.com says...
> >> and her school-mates were using my proxy, to
> >> circumvent the school filters,
> >
> > See, you support unethical activity, you help people circumvent rules
> > put in place to protect the networks and resources. You are unethical.
>
>
> To tune in, as their school-mate was competing at this skating
> event, to me, shows school spirit, and is NOT unethical.

To break Company/School policy for any reason is unethical - it doesn't
matter what the reason, and a personal reason makes it even more
unethical, it's unethical to break policy when one exists.

You are unethical.

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From: Sebastian G. on
Chilly8 wrote:

> There is no POSSIBLE way the admins at Bob Jones

> University could EVER figure out what she was up to.

Are you dumb? As administrators, they have full control over the client, and
could (technically) monitor whatever they want - including the execution of
programs, URLs, screenshots, keyboard and mouse input...
From: Chilly8 on
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"Sebastian G." <seppi(a)seppig.de> wrote in message
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> Chilly8 wrote:
>
>> There is no POSSIBLE way the admins at Bob Jones
>
> > University could EVER figure out what she was up to.
>
> Are you dumb? As administrators, they have full control over the client,
> and could (technically) monitor whatever they want - including the
> execution of programs, URLs, screenshots, keyboard and mouse input...

This was HER computer in HER dorm room. She would connect
to her parent's computer from her own personal computer in the
dorm room. Since it was her own personal computer, there
would be no keyloggers, or anything like that put in by the
university. Since the computer, in this case, was her property
and not the school's property, they would have no way to
use keyloggers or screenshot makers, or anything like that
there.



From: Chilly8 on
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"Leythos" <void(a)nowhere.lan> wrote in message
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> In article <fms4g9$mbf$1(a)aioe.org>, chilly8(a)hotmail.com says...
>> She told me that her parents
>> did not agree with some parts of the Internet usage policy, so
>> they set up an encrypted link on the parents broadband link at
>> home. When she went to surf the Net, she would make an
>> encrypted connection to her parents computer, and then
>> surf the net from there. There is no POSSIBLE way the
>> admins at Bob Jones University could EVER figure out
>> what she was up to.
>
> Yes, there is a clear indicator that she was setup with an Encrypted
> link to a residential site - as long as the policy does not permit such
> links she could have her internet connection suspended.
>
> If she was found to have surfed, by means of inspecting her computer for
> some reason, she could also have her connection suspended.

This was HER computer, and was HER property, and NOT that
of the unversity. That was done from her dorm room.


From: Chilly8 on
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"Leythos" <void(a)nowhere.lan> wrote in message
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> In article <fmsbmq$bqs$1(a)aioe.org>, chilly8(a)hotmail.com says...
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>> "Leythos" <void(a)nowhere.lan> wrote in message
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>> > In article <fmonun$755$1(a)aioe.org>, chilly8(a)hotmail.com says...
>> >> and her school-mates were using my proxy, to
>> >> circumvent the school filters,
>> >
>> > See, you support unethical activity, you help people circumvent rules
>> > put in place to protect the networks and resources. You are unethical.
>>
>>
>> To tune in, as their school-mate was competing at this skating
>> event, to me, shows school spirit, and is NOT unethical.
>
> To break Company/School policy for any reason is unethical - it doesn't
> matter what the reason, and a personal reason makes it even more
> unethical, it's unethical to break policy when one exists.
>
> You are unethical.

,
..

I had a cousin some years ago in who wanted to check up on
his chidlren.. He worked
at an office quite a ways away, with a long commute to work,
so I set him up on my proxy, at the time, where he could
log in to his home computer, and check up on what his
then teenage children were up to. It is NOT unethical
to help a parent check up on their children, which I was
doing in both cases. As far as *I* was concerned, he
was excerising his PARENTAL RIGHTS to know what
his chidren were up to, and so giving him acccess to
do that was NOT unethical.