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From: Gerald Vogt on 19 Jan 2008 07:56 On Jan 19, 9:46 pm, "Chilly8" <chil...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > This was HER computer, and was HER property, and NOT that > of the unversity. That was done from her dorm room. But it was not HER network connection but of the university which probably provided her with a free internet connection in her dorm room with certain restrictions and rules. It is unethical. She broke rules of a service which was provided free to her. Gerald
From: Chilly8 on 19 Jan 2008 08:08 X-No-Archive: Yes "Gerald Vogt" <vogt(a)spamcop.net> wrote in message news:adebdb65-0176-4524-88e5-adb68cd7fce3(a)y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > On Jan 19, 9:46 pm, "Chilly8" <chil...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> This was HER computer, and was HER property, and NOT that >> of the unversity. That was done from her dorm room. > > But it was not HER network connection but of the university which > probably provided her with a free internet connection in her dorm room > with certain restrictions and rules. It is unethical. She broke rules > of a service which was provided free to her. However, her parents were fully within their legal rights to provide her with that encrypted connect. The TOS for their particular broadband provider allowed them to set up such a connection, so her parents were in the clear.
From: Gerald Vogt on 19 Jan 2008 08:23 On Jan 19, 9:56 pm, "Chilly8" <chil...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > I had a cousin some years ago in who wanted to check up on > his chidlren.. He worked > at an office quite a ways away, with a long commute to work, > so I set him up on my proxy, at the time, where he could > log in to his home computer, and check up on what his > then teenage children were up to. It is NOT unethical > to help a parent check up on their children, which I was It is unethical to help someone break company rules which are implemented to protect the company networks and network resources. > doing in both cases. As far as *I* was concerned, he > was excerising his PARENTAL RIGHTS to know what He has a lot of rights but that does not give him the right to break rules or laws. > his chidren were up to, and so giving him acccess to > do that was NOT unethical. So if he saw that his children were up to something and he jumped into his car to speed back home, breaking speed limits, breaking street laws, you would consider that, too, his parental right to check on his children and thus ethical? If you helped him to get quickly through some radar checks your doing would be ethical to help him to exercise his parental right? Or if he knew that from time to time his children would stay at some friend's place and he wanted to excersice his parental rights there, too, and he would thus secretly install some bugs and hidden cameras there because the friend's parents would never agree to that would you consider this ethical as well because it is just a parental right to check on his children? And if you help him to do that you think you are ethical? If you agree to work somewhere or agree to use some network resources at a dorm room you agree to comply with some rules. You usually sign those rules. Otherwise you would not get the job or you would not get network access granted. Breaking those rules is unethical. You agreed to comply with them and now you break them. You are always free to work somewhere else at a place with different rules or use some other way to access the internet at your dorm. Now, if you help someone breaking those rules you are unethical. Gerald
From: Leythos on 19 Jan 2008 09:04 In article <fmss1j$v82$1(a)aioe.org>, chilly8(a)hotmail.com says... > I had a cousin some years ago in who wanted to check up on > his chidlren.. He worked So, you keep showing that YOU and people you know and help have a long unethical history of violating company policy for personal benefit. You and they are unethical. -- Leythos - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
From: Leythos on 19 Jan 2008 09:05
In article <fmsrd3$t87$1(a)aioe.org>, chilly8(a)hotmail.com says... > "Sebastian G." <seppi(a)seppig.de> wrote in message > news:5ve4usF1m58jrU1(a)mid.dfncis.de... > > Chilly8 wrote: > > > >> There is no POSSIBLE way the admins at Bob Jones > > > > > University could EVER figure out what she was up to. > > > > Are you dumb? As administrators, they have full control over the client, > > and could (technically) monitor whatever they want - including the > > execution of programs, URLs, screenshots, keyboard and mouse input... > > This was HER computer in HER dorm room. You don't seem to understand, the students often sign or agree to having their communications monitored as part of the agreement for network service. -- Leythos - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) |