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From: JSH on 19 Jul 2008 15:02 One of the reasons I bothered to create the open source project Class Viewer for Java was that I'd had years of arguing with math people on newsgroups which kind of happened by accident, as kind of as a lark I thought I'd ponder some math problems and talked about it. Yuck, what a mistake. Math people ripped on me endlessly and told me to shut-up. I got angry and refused and found I LIKED pondering math problems they had claimed as their exclusive property and screw them. Over the years I learned many of them are idiots and they lie a LOT. It is scary how much they lie about, and there's nothing you can do about it and most people will not believe it's true because they think these math people are geniuses. So I did Class Viewer partly to convince myself that these people calling me insane, telling me I was "subhuman" and behaving very badly in many ways as they mounted a very successful smear campaign against me, were wrong. To understand how successfully they smeared me, do a search on "James Harris" in Yahoo! where a hate page attacking my research comes up #6 last time I checked in Yahoo! and consider the millions of people with that name in the world, but somehow a hate page against me is so important? So I wrote Class Viewer and sat back and waited and one day I pointed out on a math newsgroup that I had this open source project, and what did they do? They ripped on it. They argued that it was worthless and not of value to anyone and pointed to the lack of activity on the SourceForge page as they maintained that I am just a crackpot loser. Math people lie all the time. If you agree then goddamn you if you ever use Class Viewer for Java and if you agree with them and have it now, delete it off your system. James Harris
From: gjedwards on 19 Jul 2008 18:45 On Jul 19, 8:02 pm, JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > One of the reasons I bothered to create the open source project Class > Viewer for Java was that I'd had years of arguing with math people on > newsgroups which kind of happened by accident, as kind of as a lark I > thought I'd ponder some math problems and talked about it. Yuck, what > a mistake. > > Math people ripped on me endlessly and told me to shut-up. > > I got angry and refused and found I LIKED pondering math problems they > had claimed as their exclusive property and screw them. Over the > years I learned many of them are idiots and they lie a LOT. It is > scary how much they lie about, and there's nothing you can do about it > and most people will not believe it's true because they think these > math people are geniuses. > > So I did Class Viewer partly to convince myself that these people > calling me insane, telling me I was "subhuman" and behaving very badly > in many ways as they mounted a very successful smear campaign against > me, were wrong. > > To understand how successfully they smeared me, do a search on "James > Harris" in Yahoo! where a hate page attacking my research comes up #6 > last time I checked in Yahoo! and consider the millions of people with > that name in the world, but somehow a hate page against me is so > important? > > So I wrote Class Viewer and sat back and waited and one day I pointed > out on a math newsgroup that I had this open source project, and what > did they do? > > They ripped on it. They argued that it was worthless and not of value > to anyone and pointed to the lack of activity on the SourceForge page > as they maintained that I am just a crackpot loser. > > Math people lie all the time. > > If you agree then goddamn you if you ever use Class Viewer for Java > and if you agree with them and have it now, delete it off your system. > > James Harris I'd love to but the damn thing is so badly written it won't uninstall. The only way I'll ever feel clean again is to burn my PC in the yard.
From: JSH on 19 Jul 2008 21:04 On Jul 19, 3:45 pm, gjedwards <gjedwa...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 19, 8:02 pm, JSH <jst...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > One of the reasons I bothered to create the open source project Class > > Viewer for Java was that I'd had years of arguing with math people on > > newsgroups which kind of happened by accident, as kind of as a lark I > > thought I'd ponder some math problems and talked about it. Yuck, what > > a mistake. > > > Math people ripped on me endlessly and told me to shut-up. > > > I got angry and refused and found I LIKED pondering math problems they > > had claimed as their exclusive property and screw them. Over the > > years I learned many of them are idiots and they lie a LOT. It is > > scary how much they lie about, and there's nothing you can do about it > > and most people will not believe it's true because they think these > > math people are geniuses. > > > So I did Class Viewer partly to convince myself that these people > > calling me insane, telling me I was "subhuman" and behaving very badly > > in many ways as they mounted a very successful smear campaign against > > me, were wrong. > > > To understand how successfully they smeared me, do a search on "James > > Harris" in Yahoo! where a hate page attacking my research comes up #6 > > last time I checked in Yahoo! and consider the millions of people with > > that name in the world, but somehow a hate page against me is so > > important? > > > So I wrote Class Viewer and sat back and waited and one day I pointed > > out on a math newsgroup that I had this open source project, and what > > did they do? > > > They ripped on it. They argued that it was worthless and not of value > > to anyone and pointed to the lack of activity on the SourceForge page > > as they maintained that I am just a crackpot loser. > > > Math people lie all the time. > > > If you agree then goddamn you if you ever use Class Viewer for Java > > and if you agree with them and have it now, delete it off your system. > > > James Harris > > I'd love to but the damn thing is so badly written it won't uninstall. > The only way I'll ever feel clean again is to burn my PC in the yard. Note: reply is from a regular poster on math newsgroups who has flamed me more than once. These people are dedicated to what they do. I've had to do things like Class Viewer to convince myself as well that they're wrong about me, as these people are so dedicated, do not stop, and never get off message. Their message is that whatever I do is worthless and people should not listen to me when I tell them solutions to math problems that the math people have appropriated as their area only. If you ever wrote a prime counter for school, consider how easy it is for me to show that the prime counting function I wrote is a never before seen, critical find in the area, and how easily these people have kept their smear campaign going, as they deny it despite proof. The behavior is deliberate, and its reason is obvious: they do not want actual answers known to any number of famous problems. They don't want the answers known because the actual answers are too easy. And easy answers do not support as many math people as there are in the world supposedly working hard in these areas. They are not truly working hard as solutions are known which they ignore. Like look at my Traveling Salesman Problem solution. If it is correct, how many researchers in this area are suddenly displaced by such a trivially easy algorithm? The people who will not tell you answers because they are doing research that is simply removed as relevant by a solution are the kinds of people I fight because they are fighting for their jobs at the expense of the world. For them, it is about a paycheck. James Harris
From: Joshua Cranmer on 19 Jul 2008 21:06 JSH wrote: > One of the reasons I bothered to create the open source project Class > Viewer for Java was that I'd had years of arguing with math people on > newsgroups which kind of happened by accident, as kind of as a lark I > thought I'd ponder some math problems and talked about it. Yuck, what > a mistake. > > Math people ripped on me endlessly and told me to shut-up. FWIW, given my reading of the newsposts, most of the initial anger was derived from perceived inadequacies in responding to perceived flaws or inadequate specification in the algorithm--much like the questions Patricia and I posed to you recently. Subsequent anger originated from a positive-feedback cycle wherein you became more detached from your detractors, inducing them to be even angrier (which is actually probably not the right word here), which made you more detached, etc. > I got angry and refused and found I LIKED pondering math problems they > had claimed as their exclusive property and screw them. Over the > years I learned many of them are idiots and they lie a LOT. It is > scary how much they lie about, and there's nothing you can do about it > and most people will not believe it's true because they think these > math people are geniuses. .... and I would consider this a gross mischaracterization of the situation. I don't believe anyone claimed FLT or factoring as "exclusive property." Certainly, however, I don't think a cabal arose creating great myths, but conspiracy theories do seem to be the rage these days. To each his own. FWIW, as well, your postings here are not helping your case. > Math people lie all the time. My interpretation of this is best characterized as an attempt to rationalize criticisms that many would consider to be valid, or, in other words, to blame others for one's foibles. Hmm, I should really start venting outside of writing responses, as I seem to be coming across as rather pompous for my tastes. -- Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it. -- Donald E. Knuth
From: rossum on 20 Jul 2008 07:12 On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:04:52 -0700 (PDT), JSH <jstevh(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Like look at my Traveling Salesman Problem solution. How can it be a solution if there are instances of the TSP which it cannot solve? At best you have a partial solution. > >If it is correct, how many researchers in this area are suddenly >displaced by such a trivially easy algorithm? "If it is correct ..." Do not get ahead of yourself James. First you need to have a correct solution. Start by amending your initial attempt so it can deal with Patricia's example that your current algorithm cannot solve. rossum
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