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From: RD Jones on 3 Oct 2005 23:52 mwood5nospam(a)yahoo.com wrote: > I was just searching for some older topics and I ran across a few of > the "what's the pinnacle year for rock and roll" and stuff like that > and it got me to thinking.... > What year, and or, what even caused the death of jazz. Another twist > would be, what's the pinnacle year for jazz. > > later, > m The emergence of Rock-and-Roll in the mid '50s caused the 'death' of Jazz as a viable genre. The pinnacle years would have to be somewhere around '58-'59 as the few artists who were able to 'make it big' continued until the audience dwindled. I remember that the beatnicks, etc didn't really buy into the pop aspect of RnR. There's a full time Jazz radio station in the Nashville area (89.5 public radio, MTSU) that is for the most part traditional (not "smooth" Jazz). rd
From: Jukka Andersson on 4 Oct 2005 01:52 my voice for this as well. most my friends who dont care jazz does compare it to this smooth jazz or avant gardeish freejazz. I myself found jazz until acid jazz and lounge and followed deeper and deeper to the roots.. I believe I am now somewhere in 70s and like it there. jukka "Dr. Dolittle" <pdo(a)spamblaster.not> wrote in message news:OMj0f.104909$3S5.87425(a)tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > The year "smooth jazz" was born.
From: Bob Vandiver on 4 Oct 2005 03:06 In article <1128372140.393491.68700(a)g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, mwood5nospam(a)yahoo.com wrote: > I was just searching for some older topics and I ran across a few of > the "what's the pinnacle year for rock and roll" and stuff like that > and it got me to thinking.... > What year, and or, what even caused the death of jazz. Another twist > would be, what's the pinnacle year for jazz. > > later, > m I have felt for some time that jazz died the year that BeBop was born, which was close to the time rock was born, plus or minus a couple of years. Up until then Jazz held sway over huge numbers of people. With BeBop jazz became cerebral instead of fun. The expertise of the players continued to improve and certainly produced some bright moments (Coltrane, Miles -and early fusion). This new music encouraged the growth of the jazz snob instead of the music lover. Yes there have been certainly music lovers along for this new ride but not anywhere as many as were around for Big Band. In fact the growing legions of snobs have done a good job of pissing off those that might otherwise enjoy the music. This in turn feeds the ego of the snobs. Bob Vandiver
From: Uncle Russ on 4 Oct 2005 04:02 Finally somebody UNDERSTANDS! "Uncle Russ" Reinberg WESTLAKE PUBLISHING COMPANY www.finescalerr.com WESTLAKE RECORDS www.westlakerecords.com "Bob Vandiver" <bobv(a)hellyeah.com> wrote in message news:bobv-994E6A.00064304102005(a)news.giganews.com... > In article <1128372140.393491.68700(a)g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, > mwood5nospam(a)yahoo.com wrote: > >> I was just searching for some older topics and I ran across a few of >> the "what's the pinnacle year for rock and roll" and stuff like that >> and it got me to thinking.... >> What year, and or, what even caused the death of jazz. Another twist >> would be, what's the pinnacle year for jazz. >> >> later, >> m > > I have felt for some time that jazz died the year that BeBop was born, > which was close to the time rock was born, plus or minus a couple of > years. > > Up until then Jazz held sway over huge numbers of people. With BeBop > jazz became cerebral instead of fun. The expertise of the players > continued to improve and certainly produced some bright moments > (Coltrane, Miles -and early fusion). This new music encouraged the > growth of the jazz snob instead of the music lover. Yes there have been > certainly music lovers along for this new ride but not anywhere as many > as were around for Big Band. In fact the growing legions of snobs have > done a good job of pissing off those that might otherwise enjoy the > music. This in turn feeds the ego of the snobs. > > Bob Vandiver
From: Don Pearce on 4 Oct 2005 04:06
On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 01:02:59 -0700, Uncle Russ wrote: > Finally somebody UNDERSTANDS! > > "Uncle Russ" Reinberg > > WESTLAKE PUBLISHING COMPANY > www.finescalerr.com > WESTLAKE RECORDS > www.westlakerecords.com > > "Bob Vandiver" <bobv(a)hellyeah.com> wrote in message > news:bobv-994E6A.00064304102005(a)news.giganews.com... >> In article <1128372140.393491.68700(a)g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, >> mwood5nospam(a)yahoo.com wrote: >> >>> I was just searching for some older topics and I ran across a few of >>> the "what's the pinnacle year for rock and roll" and stuff like that >>> and it got me to thinking.... >>> What year, and or, what even caused the death of jazz. Another twist >>> would be, what's the pinnacle year for jazz. >>> >>> later, >>> m >> >> I have felt for some time that jazz died the year that BeBop was born, >> which was close to the time rock was born, plus or minus a couple of >> years. >> >> Up until then Jazz held sway over huge numbers of people. With BeBop >> jazz became cerebral instead of fun. The expertise of the players >> continued to improve and certainly produced some bright moments >> (Coltrane, Miles -and early fusion). This new music encouraged the >> growth of the jazz snob instead of the music lover. Yes there have been >> certainly music lovers along for this new ride but not anywhere as many >> as were around for Big Band. In fact the growing legions of snobs have >> done a good job of pissing off those that might otherwise enjoy the >> music. This in turn feeds the ego of the snobs. >> >> Bob Vandiver And all of that before we even get to the horror that is fusion. d |