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From: Dan on 4 Oct 2005 10:42 The more appropriate question is 'when did good music die?' I am happy to report that it is alive and well in non-commercial radio channels. The follow: when did "pop" culture hit the shitter? On 10/3/2005 4:35 PM, Iain Fraser wrote: > jazz is far from dead - jazz is fairly big in outside the U.S. > > > "Jay Kadis" <jay(a)ccrma.stanford.edu> wrote in message > news:jay-A703F1.14004803102005(a)news.stanford.edu... >> In article <1128372140.393491.68700(a)g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, >> mwood5nospam(a)yahoo.com wrote: >> >>> I was just searching for some older topics and I ran across a few of >>> the "what's the pinnacle year for rock and roll" and stuff like that >>> and it got me to thinking.... >>> What year, and or, what even caused the death of jazz. Another twist >>> would be, what's the pinnacle year for jazz. >>> >>> later, >>> m >>> >> Jazz isn't dead, it's just stunned. >> >> But frankly I don't think any type of music "dies". We may not see much >> jazz in >> the broadcast media, but there are plenty of jazz clubs and a vital albeit >> small >> scene in this area (SF bay area). The Berkeley Jazz school is alive and >> well as >> is the Stanford Summer Jazz program, which draws young jazz enthusiasts >> from >> around the country every summer. Yoshi's is one of the hottest clubs in >> the >> area. Lots of aging rockers seem to be pursuing jazz and standards as a >> retirement exercise. I bet jazz is in for a resurrection, although it >> somewhat >> depends on your definition of jazz... >> >> -Jay >> -- >> x------- Jay Kadis ------- x---- Jay's Attic Studio ------x >> x Lecturer, Audio Engineer x Dexter Records x >> x CCRMA, Stanford University x http://www.offbeats.com/ x >> x---------- http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jay/ ------------x > >
From: Jay Kadis on 4 Oct 2005 10:57 In article <pan.2005.10.03.23.42.19.54708(a)control.gov>, Agent 86 <maxwellsmart(a)control.gov> wrote: > On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 14:00:48 -0700, Jay Kadis wrote: > > >it somewhat depends on your definition of jazz... > > Well therein lies the rub, doesn't it. > > Somewhere in the 70s, somebody decided that the word "jazz" would be a > good marketing catch phrase to sell instrumental easy listening dreck that ^^^^^^^^^ > had previously been known as "elevator music" or "dentist office music". As you say, therein lies the rub! > Sadly, a few real jazz players bought into this charade, & started turning > out radio friendly material that I'll just refer to as "lighter fare" (a > polite term that I use here only because one of the best known offenders > was George Benson, who had previously been one of my favorites) because it > looked like it might give them a bigger & more mainstream (commercial) > audience than they could hope for otherwise. And if you can bring > yourself to call "Breezin" jazz, then it's only a little bit of a stretch > to Kenny G. And if Kenny G. can be called Jazz under any circumstances, > then Jazz is truly dead IMO. There's a band playing in the SF area soon called "The Dead Kenny G's". Best name ever. -Jay -- x------- Jay Kadis ------- x---- Jay's Attic Studio ------x x Lecturer, Audio Engineer x Dexter Records x x CCRMA, Stanford University x http://www.offbeats.com/ x x---------- http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jay/ ------------x
From: Jay Kadis on 4 Oct 2005 11:00 In article <kxm0f.365830$5N3.204690(a)bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, "Iain Fraser" <strawstud(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote: > which brings the classic jazz joke > > How do you get a million dollars playing jazz? > > > > Start with 2 million > > > > Funny, I hear that applied to recording studios all the time. -Jay -- x------- Jay Kadis ------- x---- Jay's Attic Studio ------x x Lecturer, Audio Engineer x Dexter Records x x CCRMA, Stanford University x http://www.offbeats.com/ x x---------- http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jay/ ------------x
From: My Last Sigh on 4 Oct 2005 11:57 As soon as Miles said : Jazz is music for the museums." Personally, I would say 1958. <mwood5nospam(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1128372140.393491.68700(a)g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I was just searching for some older topics and I ran across a few of > the "what's the pinnacle year for rock and roll" and stuff like that > and it got me to thinking.... > What year, and or, what even caused the death of jazz. Another twist > would be, what's the pinnacle year for jazz. > > later, > m >
From: Roger W. Norman on 4 Oct 2005 14:38
Jazz didn't die. It's never been a format for the masses. It's been a format for the masters of music. Jazz hasn't died. I can go to jazz performances every night of the week and like it. I can't say the same for rock performances. -- Roger W. Norman SirMusic Studio http://blogs.salon.com/0004478/ <mwood5nospam(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1128372140.393491.68700(a)g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I was just searching for some older topics and I ran across a few of > the "what's the pinnacle year for rock and roll" and stuff like that > and it got me to thinking.... > What year, and or, what even caused the death of jazz. Another twist > would be, what's the pinnacle year for jazz. > > later, > m > |