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From: Chris/Power Salad on 4 Oct 2005 15:04
On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 14:17:35 GMT, "Jona Vark" <noemail(a)all.com> wrote:

>But I did see a 3 stooges eopsiode where they rapped all the way through..
>circa.. 1950 something.. or earlier..

Lots earlier. Their first Columbia short, "Woman Haters", 1934. Even
then, the Stooges were street.
From: james on 4 Oct 2005 16:29
A musical genre's death begins when it is given a name. Until then,
it's just some original music that someone decided to make.
From: hank alrich on 4 Oct 2005 17:07
Jay Kadis wrote:

> "Iain Fraser" wrote:

> > which brings the classic jazz joke

> > How do you get a million dollars playing jazz?

> > Start with 2 million

> Funny, I hear that applied to recording studios all the time.

They stole the joke from farmers.

--
ha
From: Jona Vark on 4 Oct 2005 20:03

"Chris/Power Salad" <chaff(a)powersalad.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 14:17:35 GMT, "Jona Vark" <noemail(a)all.com> wrote:
>
> >But I did see a 3 stooges eopsiode where they rapped all the way
through..
> >circa.. 1950 something.. or earlier..
>
> Lots earlier. Their first Columbia short, "Woman Haters", 1934. Even
> then, the Stooges were street.

YES!!! THAT WAS it! I Wish more people could see that.. it was definately
the earlist rap I have ever seen.. Very cool! Def Stooges! Yo!


From: Julian on 5 Oct 2005 02:36
On 3 Oct 2005 18:52:08 -0700, genericaudioperson(a)hotmail.com wrote:

>it depends on what you call jazz, and what you define as dead.

Jazz sure ain't dead. Mostly what I listen to these days. Lot's of
good people making jazz records.

>the big shift happened when Elvis-style rockabilly/Buddy Holly became
>the rage. before that, the sound of big band horn arrangements was the
>popular sound whether it was a pure jazz thing or a pop thing.

Yes that's when it stopped being the pop music of the day.
If you call when it stopped being on top it's death, that is when it
happened.

>then the small three piece band with an electric guitar and a young
>vocalist took over. then everything else happened.
>
>so 1954 would be a good death year if you wanted to try to be specific.

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