What Year Did Jazz Die
in [Audio Recording]
|
Prev: Control 24 with a G5
Next: Behringer MS40
From: Julian on 5 Oct 2005 02:51 On 3 Oct 2005 19:07:44 -0700, genericaudioperson(a)hotmail.com wrote: >the pinnacle year for jazz..again another vague concept. if you mean >in terms of popularity, then it would have to be when the sound of jazz >was in fact the sound of popular music. this would mean Louis >Armstrong, Bing Crosby, and Frank Sinatra. So 1927 to 1952 would be >fair as a rough figure. I'd call it the swing era when Broadway musicals became pop music and then people like Benny Goodman and all those cats in Harlem started packin' 'em in like crazy. That was big peak. 1935 - 1945. If WWII hadn't fallen right in the middle, jazz might have had an even more definable peak. > >If you mean when was the best playing, well it's tough to beat the >be-bob/cool jazz virtuoso era of the 1960s with John Coltrane, Miles >Davis, Herbie Hancock, Bill Evans, Philly Joe Jones, Charles Mingus, >etc. All great players! Miles' Kind of Blue is IMO about the best album ever recorded, PERIOD. If you count total jazz record sales and total people attending concerts and dances, I'll bet the numbers all add up to show 1935 to 1945 had more records sold and more tickets bought. By the 60's there was too much competition with other styles. But then that's my own personal bias too. >On vocals, Ella Fitzgerald. I don't know anyone who will ever live up to Ella! These days I think Diana Krall is awful hard to beat. Julian
From: Bob Vandiver on 5 Oct 2005 02:55 In article <NZWdnVCJI5W3qt_eRVn-gg(a)adelphia.com>, "Uncle Russ" <uncruss(a)adelphia.net> wrote: > Finally somebody UNDERSTANDS! > > "Uncle Russ" Reinberg > > WESTLAKE PUBLISHING COMPANY > www.finescalerr.com > WESTLAKE RECORDS > www.westlakerecords.com Thanks Uncle! Bob Vandiver > "Bob Vandiver" <bobv(a)hellyeah.com> wrote in message > news:bobv-994E6A.00064304102005(a)news.giganews.com... > > In article <1128372140.393491.68700(a)g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, > > mwood5nospam(a)yahoo.com wrote: > > > >> I was just searching for some older topics and I ran across a few of > >> the "what's the pinnacle year for rock and roll" and stuff like that > >> and it got me to thinking.... > >> What year, and or, what even caused the death of jazz. Another twist > >> would be, what's the pinnacle year for jazz. > >> > >> later, > >> m > > > > I have felt for some time that jazz died the year that BeBop was born, > > which was close to the time rock was born, plus or minus a couple of > > years. > > > > Up until then Jazz held sway over huge numbers of people. With BeBop > > jazz became cerebral instead of fun. The expertise of the players > > continued to improve and certainly produced some bright moments > > (Coltrane, Miles -and early fusion). This new music encouraged the > > growth of the jazz snob instead of the music lover. Yes there have been > > certainly music lovers along for this new ride but not anywhere as many > > as were around for Big Band. In fact the growing legions of snobs have > > done a good job of pissing off those that might otherwise enjoy the > > music. This in turn feeds the ego of the snobs. > > > > Bob Vandiver
From: DC on 5 Oct 2005 16:20 Jay Kadis wrote: > Jazz isn't dead, it's just stunned. And it smells funny.
From: Iain Fraser on 6 Oct 2005 07:55 Jazz was a HUGE mainstream art form - and yes you can go to a rock show ever night of the week. "Roger W. Norman" <Roger(a)SirMusicStudio.com> wrote in message news:G-2dnY9xr5O-Ud_enZ2dnUVZ_sqdnZ2d(a)rcn.net... > Jazz didn't die. It's never been a format for the masses. It's been a > format for the masters of music. Jazz hasn't died. I can go to jazz > performances every night of the week and like it. I can't say the same > for > rock performances. > > -- > > > Roger W. Norman > SirMusic Studio > http://blogs.salon.com/0004478/ > > <mwood5nospam(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1128372140.393491.68700(a)g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> I was just searching for some older topics and I ran across a few of >> the "what's the pinnacle year for rock and roll" and stuff like that >> and it got me to thinking.... >> What year, and or, what even caused the death of jazz. Another twist >> would be, what's the pinnacle year for jazz. >> >> later, >> m >> > >
From: mwood5nospam on 6 Oct 2005 16:07
Laurent, I would never say something like "the music of JS Bach is dead", but as a musical style....if you can lump classical together as one, are there any modern pieces that you mention? You actually answered the question with your retort. By using an artist that's been dead for 100+ years, you further proved the point. Whether or not you think that classical, or jazz, is dead, there's no denying that the golden years are far behind. There are definitely no modern composers that would qualify in the genius level like the Bachs, Mozarts, etc. As someone mentioned before, there are no current Tranes, Miles or Mingus'. What's the best proponent of traditional jazz? One of the Marsalis brothers? Please. To answer some of the other statements....I'm not talking about the commercial death of the genre. I'm talking about the quality of music. I'm sure there are pockets of great performers, but no one that is really on that other level like they were. Also, to those of you talking about jazz in your area...I'm about 40 miles from the North Texas Jazz program here, so pretty much, I'm in the mecca for the countries elite jazz artists. later, m |