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From: David Bailey on 14 Apr 2008 05:16
Hi Houghi,

On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 14:30:53 +0200, houghi wrote:

> I am currently using Gftp and it is ok to do the occasional upload. For
> more automated stuff I use sitecopy.
>
> However when working on my site I often do minor changes, then upload
> them, then do another minor change and upload.

Taking a slightly different tack. What HTML editor are you using? Are
you committed to it? All of the KDE applications, especially Quanta,
allow you to directly open remote files via the KIO slaves. For example,
you can open ftp://your.domain.com/somefile.html directly at the file
open dialog. You can then save directly back to the server. There are
also KIO slaves for fish (SSH), sftp (also basically SSH), smb etc.

Quanta also has the added advantage of being a HTML editor, which may be
handy. It also has upload profiles. So if you don't want to save
directly to the server (eg: save locally and test before uploading), you
can just save locally and use the Upload Project facility to push up the
files you have modified when you are ready. No asking for overwrite
permission etc. It also keeps track of what it needs to upload, so you
don't have to upload everything for just one file being changed.

You can also use Konqueror as a FTP client (same deal as with the KDE
applications). Although I would expect it would ask about overwriting
files, so not so useful in your case.

>
> First Gftp asks me to confirm an overwrite. This is anoying to me,
> altough it is a great default. I do not like it and I do not need it. I
> know what the risks are and I have already deleted sites and pages that
> I shouldn't have. However that is my choice and I stick to it.
>
> Are there any (GUI) programs that are able to handle this?

> houghi





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From: houghi on 14 Apr 2008 05:29
Gilbert wrote:
>> It changes the default. Normaly the default is (I think) skip file. You
>> get a popup that says: Overwrite, resume, Skip File, Select All and
>> Deselect All.
>
> Doh! I think that the "allow overwrite" ability is a function of your FTP
> Server, not of your FTP client. What are you using as your FTP server? Do
> you have something like "AllowOverwrite = off" in it's config file? If so,
> try changing it to "AllowOverwrite = on"

The fact that the server does this is normal and expected. I do not have
any influence of that server. I do have influence over the client that
each time the question is asked, it says 'yes' without me clicking
something.

The sever also asks a login and password and luckily my client remebers
the answer to those questions as well.

houghi
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From: houghi on 14 Apr 2008 05:30
nomail-nospam(a)no.org wrote:
>> Are there any (GUI) programs that are able to handle this?
>
> Maybe Igloo?

Will try it later when I am at home.

houghi
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From: David Bolt on 14 Apr 2008 07:05
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Gilbert wrote:-

>>>>
>>>
>>> Have you tried changing the value? What happens if you set it to 0
>>
>> It changes the default. Normaly the default is (I think) skip file. You
>> get a popup that says: Overwrite, resume, Skip File, Select All and
>> Deselect All.
>>
>
>Doh! I think that the "allow overwrite" ability is a function of your FTP
>Server, not of your FTP client.

It's a function of the FTP client, not the server:

ftp> dir
229 Extended Passive mode OK (|||40587|)
150 Accepted data connection
-rw-r--r-- 1 davjam users 63842 Apr 14 11:03 glade3.jpg
226-Options: -l
226 1 matches total
ftp> put glade3.jpg
local: glade3.jpg remote: glade3.jpg
229 Extended Passive mode OK (|||6343|)
150 Accepted data connection
100% |***********************************************| 63842 13.90 MB/s 00:00 ETA
226-File successfully transferred
226 0.006 seconds (measured here), 9.76 Mbytes per second
63842 bytes sent in 00:00 (1.48 MB/s)
ftp> dir
229 Extended Passive mode OK (|||2432|)
150 Accepted data connection
-rw-r--r-- 1 davjam users 63842 Apr 14 11:04 glade3.jpg
226-Options: -l
226 1 matches total
ftp> quit
221-Goodbye. You uploaded 188 and downloaded 0 kbytes.
221 Logout.

And the FTP client?

davjam(a)donnas:~> rpm -qf $(which ftp)
lukemftp-1.5-617

However, that fails on the "must be GUI" criteria.

As for GUI clients:

There's FileZilla from Packman. That lets you alter the actions when the
source and destination have an identically named file. You can have it
ask, overwrite, overwrite if newer, resume, rename or skip. You can also
choose different options for uploads and downloads.


Regards,
David Bolt

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From: houghi on 14 Apr 2008 08:37
David Bolt wrote:
> However, that fails on the "must be GUI" criteria.

`mc` has it as well, so it is not 'GUI' based.

> As for GUI clients:
>
> There's FileZilla from Packman. That lets you alter the actions when the
> source and destination have an identically named file. You can have it
> ask, overwrite, overwrite if newer, resume, rename or skip. You can also
> choose different options for uploads and downloads.

As long as I can select each file, I will be fine. Don't forget that
this is basicaly so I do not need to click OK again. That's it.

As far as I can see this has become a 'try client X or Y' and nobody
seems to know which one has what I want (not click OK when doing an
upload and the file exists)

I am aware that ther is a multitude of clients. I just wanted to know if
anybody knew of a client he or she was using that had this feature
disabled or disabable.

houghi
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