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From: b11_ on 22 Jul 2010 21:07
So far, not one straight answer!
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"b11_" wrote:

> What does one do if a torrent is completely inactive?
From: Nil on 22 Jul 2010 21:16
On 22 Jul 2010, =?Utf-8?B?YjExXw==?= <b11(a)discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote in microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

> So far, not one straight answer!

Ask a vague, nonsensical question and you are sure to get vague,
nonsensical answers.
From: ju.c on 22 Jul 2010 23:39
Wait.
Seeders can't keep their torrents active all the time, but they
will watch for peers and start the torrent when the see one.

Or search for another torrent. A new torrent may have replaced
the one that you got.


ju.c


"b11_" <b11(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:BE7A42D5-5685-4562-BCD6-B535AE708B9C(a)microsoft.com...
> So far, not one straight answer!
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> "b11_" wrote:
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>> What does one do if a torrent is completely inactive?
From: Paul on 22 Jul 2010 23:40
b11_ wrote:
> So far, not one straight answer!
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> "b11_" wrote:
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>> What does one do if a torrent is completely inactive?

At least some of the torrent tools, will have their own
web forum, where you'll find people who do nothing but
torrent. A "general" group like this one, isn't likely
to know all the answers to questions you've got.

*******

Perhaps a few academic papers, will uncover the
weaknesses in Torrent.

http://cis.poly.edu/~ross/papers/SeedAttack.pdf

http://www.raimcomputing.com/temp/freenix-paper.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_(protocol)

"Content unavailability

Although swarming scales well to tolerate flash crowds for
popular content, it is less useful for unpopular content.
Peers arriving after the initial rush might find the content
unavailable and need to wait for the arrival of a seed in order
to complete their downloads. The seed arrival, in turn, may
take long to happen, since maintaining seeds for unpopular
content entails high bandwidth and administrative costs, which
runs counter to the goals of publishers that value BitTorrent
as a cheap alternative to a client-server approach."

*******

http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=7046

"Currently, a slow torrent slips from Active to Inactive status
when the total speed drops below 1 kB/s and is thus moved from
the Active window to the Inactive window at that point.

I'd like to suggest that this should happen only after the total
speed drops to zero and stays at zero for something like a minute
or two. Then, I'd say it's really Inactive. A torrent with
one slow seeder hovering around 1 kB/s is not completely inactive,
is it?"

Different clients then, could define that state in a different way.

http://guides.radified.com/magoo/guides/bittorrent/bittorrent_05.html

"Inactive torrent

The most common reason for having trouble downloading a file is an
inactive torrent. If the torrent is old or unpopular, there may not be
enough other people downloading the file for you to get it quickly.
Try at a different time of day or find a different torrent."

HTH,
Paul
From: Shenan Stanley on 23 Jul 2010 02:22
b11_ wrote:
> What does one do if a torrent is completely inactive?
>
> So far, not one straight answer!

Straight answer: Move on. You don't control that side of the equation.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


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