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From: Neophyte_in_Linux on 24 Jun 2008 21:02
Hello,
I bought a Lenovo laptop with SLED 10 Service pack 1. I wonder whether
it stands for OpenSuse 10.1 or not. Can some one please throw light on
these naming conventions?
I am trying to load Firefox 3.0 and the installation is asking GTK+
libraries. What is a good source for these?
Thanks.
From: Chris Cox on 24 Jun 2008 21:58
Neophyte_in_Linux wrote:
> Hello,
> I bought a Lenovo laptop with SLED 10 Service pack 1. I wonder whether
> it stands for OpenSuse 10.1 or not. Can some one please throw light on
> these naming conventions?

Actually, the GM of SLED is most like openSUSE 10.1. SLED 10 SP1 is
just fixes on top of the GM. The SLED line is an enterprise class
OS, it has long term support and is QA'd.

> I am trying to load Firefox 3.0 and the installation is asking GTK+
> libraries. What is a good source for these?

You can try to use the openSUSE build service if you are not able
to find the versions you want by searching at openSUSE.

> Thanks.
From: Günther Schwarz on 25 Jun 2008 02:09
Chris Cox wrote:

> Neophyte_in_Linux wrote:

>> I bought a Lenovo laptop with SLED 10 Service pack 1. I wonder
>> whether it stands for OpenSuse 10.1 or not. Can some one please throw
>> light on these naming conventions?
>
> Actually, the GM of SLED is most like openSUSE 10.1.

It uses a 2.6.16 kernel, so this does look like 10.1.

> SLED 10 SP1 is
> just fixes on top of the GM. The SLED line is an enterprise class
> OS, it has long term support and is QA'd.

In this case (buying a used notebook) I suspect that there is no support
at all. Unlike other desktop operation systems, the OS is free of
charges, but support and security updates come only with a service
contract. See Novell's web pages for details.
So in case the OP does not want to pay for support it might be advisable
to replace the installation with OpenSuSE or any other of the many free
Linux distributions.

G�nther
From: houghi on 25 Jun 2008 04:24
G�nther Schwarz wrote:
>> Actually, the GM of SLED is most like openSUSE 10.1.
>
> It uses a 2.6.16 kernel, so this does look like 10.1.

First there was openSUSE 10.0 which was used as a basis for SLES and
SLED 10. Then there was openSUSE 10.1, just as there now is openSUSE
11.0, then there will be SLE 11 and then openSUSE 11.1

SLE is based on the same code that openSUSE is based, but in a different
time in the factory process.

There are other differences. The programs that are installed are not the
same selection as from openSUSE. The instalation is automagicaly GNOME
all the time.
The main difference is that the lifespan is 7 years. However that comes
at a price which you have to pay for. Not sure what the price is, but I
think it is some 35USD per year.
This will give you updates for the next 5-6 years and it is wel worth
the money if you use it as a business PC.

If you don't, you have the advantage that your system WILL work with
Linux, so make a backup and put openSUSE 11.0 on it. The disatvantage is
that you will have 'only' 2 years of security updates. After that you
either need to install the then current openSUSE (11.3 I guess) or do
the security updates yourself.

>> SLED 10 SP1 is
>> just fixes on top of the GM. The SLED line is an enterprise class
>> OS, it has long term support and is QA'd.
>
> In this case (buying a used notebook) I suspect that there is no support
> at all.

That might depend on the country you bought it. In Europe support for
computers (and a lot of other electronics) is two years. What you do is
just call in and they ask the number of the PC and they must give you
support. You might have to prove that you actualy bought it, but most of
the times giving the nhumber is enough. (Call the company if your PC is
stolen. That way they will not it as such and the new owner won't get
any support)

However installing a new version of Firefox will NOT be falling under
the support part.

> Unlike other desktop operation systems, the OS is free of
> charges, but support and security updates come only with a service
> contract. See Novell's web pages for details.

Yes and you can now download SLED (SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop) SP2.
Very soon SUSE 11 will be out.

> So in case the OP does not want to pay for support it might be advisable
> to replace the installation with OpenSuSE or any other of the many free
> Linux distributions.

I agree.

houghi
--
The whole principle [of censorship] is wrong. It's like demanding that
grown men live on skim milk because the baby can't have steak.
-- Robert A. Heinlein in "The Man Who Sold the Moon"
From: Chris Cox on 25 Jun 2008 12:23
G�nther Schwarz wrote:
> Chris Cox wrote:
>...
>> SLED 10 SP1 is
>> just fixes on top of the GM. The SLED line is an enterprise class
>> OS, it has long term support and is QA'd.
>
> In this case (buying a used notebook) I suspect that there is no support
> at all. Unlike other desktop operation systems, the OS is free of
> charges, but support and security updates come only with a service
> contract. See Novell's web pages for details.

Support comes in many forms. By "support" I mean that Novell will
provide updates/patches for many, many years.

> So in case the OP does not want to pay for support it might be advisable
> to replace the installation with OpenSuSE or any other of the many free
> Linux distributions.

I think he was asking for that very reason. openSUSE lifetime is
about 2 years of support (updates/patches) from GM.
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