Prev: Digital snake for LS9/32
Next: Phildo Lies 3 Times In One Post. What's new?
From: Chas Gill on 5 May 2008 11:21
Thought I might share this weekend with you, just in case you're
interested - and to invite some constructive comments.

Picture the show;

28 kids between 8-11 years, each with a line or three and a part in a song.
The client wants all the Mums and Dads to hear every word that every little
angel performs (and they WERE great, actually). Problem is budget - can't
afford more than 16 radios, to share between 28 kids. Oh, and by the way,
there's actually twice that many, i.e. 2 performances - different kids in
each.

Many long hours spent working out a mic swap schedule that volunteer mums
will understand. More hours spent fabricating headsets for small heads
(using Lavs, Alice Bands, garden wire and spiral cable wrap) that won't fall
off but that are quick to change in the wings.

More long hours spent constructing a show soundtrack, including 23 backing
tracks and 13 or so sound effects.

Even more long hours spent rehearsing all of this lot with the kids.

Come the day, soundcheck reveals (no surprise) that setting trim gains via
the PFL meter is a waste of time - they will do no more than whisper during
the soundcheck - and when they have a solo line or song to sing - but will
YELL THEIR HEADS OFF when they're all singing together. Client can't afford
16 channels of compression (yours truly slightly thankful - could I manage
16 channels of compression?) so compression is done on the fly - re-trimming
and fader jockeying.

All seems well, except that swinging belt packs from lav cables tends to be
terminal (thanks, volunteer mums) so several mild panics when lavs go on the
blink and get very noisy. (thank God I provided spares - they all got
used!).

So we got through two performances (just) and everyone was delirious. I got
to exercise my new L.U.C.A.S. system for the first time and it exceeded all
of my expectations.

I am now knackered and having a quiet day off, but with a warm glow. Will I
do it again next year - probably.

But I think I might insist on a rack full of
compressors........................... just to save my nerves.


Cheers

Chas.

ps: No, I didn't get paid - at least not with folding money. But somehow I
feel rewarded....................





From: George's ProSound Company on 5 May 2008 12:43

"Chas Gill" <Chas.Gill(a)gollum.btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:gLadnVFrpqZ-uILVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d(a)bt.com...
> Thought I might share this weekend with you, just in case you're
> interested - and to invite some constructive comments.
>
> Picture the show;
>
> 28 kids between 8-11 years, each with a line or three and a part in a
> song. The client wants all the Mums and Dads to hear every word that every
> little angel performs (and they WERE great, actually). Problem is
> budget - can't afford more than 16 radios, to share between 28 kids. Oh,
> and by the way, there's actually twice that many, i.e. 2 performances -
> different kids in each.
>
> Many long hours spent working out a mic swap schedule that volunteer mums
> will understand. More hours spent fabricating headsets for small heads
> (using Lavs, Alice Bands, garden wire and spiral cable wrap) that won't
> fall off but that are quick to change in the wings.
>
> More long hours spent constructing a show soundtrack, including 23 backing
> tracks and 13 or so sound effects.
>
> Even more long hours spent rehearsing all of this lot with the kids.
>
> Come the day, soundcheck reveals (no surprise) that setting trim gains via
> the PFL meter is a waste of time - they will do no more than whisper
> during the soundcheck - and when they have a solo line or song to sing -
> but will YELL THEIR HEADS OFF when they're all singing together. Client
> can't afford 16 channels of compression (yours truly slightly thankful -
> could I manage 16 channels of compression?) so compression is done on the
> fly - re-trimming and fader jockeying.
>
> All seems well, except that swinging belt packs from lav cables tends to
> be terminal (thanks, volunteer mums) so several mild panics when lavs go
> on the blink and get very noisy. (thank God I provided spares - they all
> got used!).
>
> So we got through two performances (just) and everyone was delirious. I
> got to exercise my new L.U.C.A.S. system for the first time and it
> exceeded all of my expectations.
>
> I am now knackered and having a quiet day off, but with a warm glow. Will
> I do it again next year - probably.
>
> But I think I might insist on a rack full of
> compressors........................... just to save my nerves.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chas.
>
> ps: No, I didn't get paid - at least not with folding money. But somehow
> I feel rewarded....................

and what is there that pro's won't do?
I donate my time and equipment constantly, without predjuice
no I doubt I would build thier sets, but I will often do entire productions,
including 16 FREE wireless lavs for the kids

Come this weekend I am donateing 650$ worth of time and equipment for the
Blessed Virgin Mother Academy
they are haveing a spring festival
so what is it again that you did that pro's dont do without the bragging and
chest pumping you have accomplished?
george
>
>
>
>
>


From: Ron Capik on 5 May 2008 14:49
George's ProSound Company wrote:

> "Chas Gill" <Chas.Gill(a)gollum.btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:gLadnVFrpqZ-uILVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d(a)bt.com...
> > Thought I might share this weekend with you, just in case you're
> > interested - and to invite some constructive comments.
> >
> > Picture the show;
> >
> > 28 kids between 8-11 years, each with a line or three and a part in a
> < ......snip... >
> >
> > But I think I might insist on a rack full of
> > compressors........................... just to save my nerves.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Chas.
> >
> > ps: No, I didn't get paid - at least not with folding money. But somehow
> > I feel rewarded....................
>
> and what is there that pro's won't do?
> I donate my time and equipment constantly, without predjuice
> no I doubt I would build thier sets, but I will often do entire productions,
> including 16 FREE wireless lavs for the kids
>
> Come this weekend I am donateing 650$ worth of time and equipment for the
> Blessed Virgin Mother Academy
> they are haveing a spring festival
> so what is it again that you did that pro's dont do without the bragging and
> chest pumping you have accomplished?
> george
> >
> >

Hmmm, I got the feeling the unstated
question and likely point of the post was,
...is there a better way?


Later...

Ron Capik
--






From: Ron(UK) on 5 May 2008 15:12
Chas Gill wrote:
Client can't afford
> 16 channels of compression (yours truly slightly thankful - could I manage
> 16 channels of compression?) so compression is done on the fly - re-trimming
> and fader jockeying.

If you do have any compressors, Group all the vocals and put the
compressor you do have on the vocal group inserts (presuming your desk
HAS groups (with inserts))

Ron
From: mackerr on 5 May 2008 15:30
On May 5, 3:12 pm, "Ron(UK)" <r...(a)lunevalleyaudio.com> wrote:
> Chas Gill wrote:
>
>   Client can't afford
>
> > 16 channels of compression (yours truly slightly thankful - could I manage
> > 16 channels of compression?) so compression is done on the fly - re-trimming
> > and fader jockeying.
>
> If you do have any compressors, Group all the vocals and put the
> compressor you do have on the vocal group inserts (presuming your desk
> HAS groups (with inserts))
>
> Ron

There may be situations where compressing groups is a good idea, I
suspect this is not one of them. Rather then helping you level the
loud kids and the soft kids this will make all the soft kids softer as
it compresses the loud kids. If only one person at a time speaks or
sings this might work. More than one at a time, not so much.

Mac
 |  Next  |  Last
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5
Prev: Digital snake for LS9/32
Next: Phildo Lies 3 Times In One Post. What's new?