From: Steve Howell on
On Feb 22, 9:45 pm, Chris Rebert <c...(a)> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Jonathan Gardner
> <jgard...(a)> wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:56 PM, AON LAZIO <aonla...(a)> wrote:
> >> That will be superb
> > It already has.
> Indeed. Python is at position 7, just behind C#, in the TIOBE Index:
> Although for Java-level mainstreamness, you'd probably need to be in
> the top 3 or 4.
> Cheers,
> Chris
> --
> The TIOBE Index is by no means perfect though.

I am sure Python could rise to number six with some squigglies! ;)
From: Ishwor Gurung on
On 23 February 2010 08:56, AON LAZIO <aonlazio(a)> wrote:
> That will be superb
Yes it would - but I'll just add in few words.

Java - Monstrous language that was Sun's flagship language. Now, it's Oracles.
Python - Hobby-ish hacking language that we all love so much (that we
wish everything was written using Python).

Java - The JVM code been hacked to death by Sun engineers (optimised)
Python - The PVM code has seen speed-ups in Unladen or via Pyrex..
ad-infinitum but nowhere as near to JVM

I like both Python and Java but given the amount of resources put into
JVM and Java (JEE is _huge_ in Enterprise if you didn't know that
already and there are universities that speak Java fluently), it's
kind of sad that Python till the day hasn't seen speedup in mainline

I see Python more as a hacker's language which will gradually evolve
and support SMEs and alike in the long run than Java (and of course we
write our weekend-only hacking projects in it :-) but for a
market-uptake like Java requires universities, colleges and students
to learn this wonderful little language and requests energetic hackers
to fix lock-contention issues and the like in the core implementation.

Perhaps I see a light, perhaps I see nothing.. but I feel the day is
coming nearer when Python would run as fast as Java/C. Only time can
tell - I hope the time is right about this.
Ishwor Gurung
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From: Stefan Behnel on
Chris Rebert, 23.02.2010 06:45:
> Indeed. Python is at position 7, just behind C#, in the TIOBE Index:

That index is clearly flawed. A language like PHP (whatever that is
supposed to be comparable with) can't possibly be on the rise, can it?


From: Roald de Vries on
On Feb 22, 2010, at 10:56 PM, AON LAZIO wrote:
> That will be superb

I guess static typing will have to be added, so that tools like
eclipse can inspect (and autocomplete) your programs [better].

From: Bruno Desthuilliers on
hackingKK a �crit :
> I don't care how many apps are developed using java as long as they
> remain heavy and sloooooooow.
> google runs on python

Please get your facts right.

Python is one of the languages used internally at Google, true, but so
is Java.

And google-the-search-engine does not "run on python".