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From: "Antti "Andy" Ylikoski" on 13 Jun 2010 00:02
12.6.2010 22:54, Pascal J. Bourguignon kirjoitti:
> bolega<gnuist006(a)gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> [PAIP]
>>
>> Is there anything in this old norvig book that makes it worth
>> pursuing as a text ?
>
> Yes.
>

I agree with his criticism that the book is "old", mine stems from the
year 1992.

I bought and studied the Russell-Norvig books on "Artificial
Intelligence: A Modern Approach", ie. the 1th, 2nd (and in the future
the 3rd edition), in order to learn modern AI theory. They have
discontinued the 3rd edition but I succeeded in ordering a copy anyway.
I have read the 1st and the 2nd editions, but I have not yet received
by mail the 3rd edition.

But I only got the PAIP book to learn Common LISP, not in order to study
modern AI. This is why I'm discussing this in the new:comp.lang.LISP
newsgroup.

Any good modern LISP textbooks out there?

Can anyone point to me any other good modern textbooks on AI than the
3rd edition of the Russell-Norvig book? (Which is reputable.)

kind regards, Antti Ylikoski
Helsinki, Finland, the E.U.
From: Tamas K Papp on 13 Jun 2010 01:46
On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 07:02:32 +0300, Antti \"Andy\" Ylikoski wrote:

> Any good modern LISP textbooks out there?

Practical Common Lisp.

Tamas
From: "Antti "Andy" Ylikoski" on 13 Jun 2010 02:28
13.6.2010 7:02, Antti "Andy" Ylikoski kirjoitti:
> 12.6.2010 22:54, Pascal J. Bourguignon kirjoitti:
>> bolega<gnuist006(a)gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> [PAIP]
>>>
>>> Is there anything in this old norvig book that makes it worth
>>> pursuing as a text ?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>
> I agree with his criticism that the book is "old", mine stems from the
> year 1992.
>
> I bought and studied the Russell-Norvig books on "Artificial
> Intelligence: A Modern Approach", ie. the 1th, 2nd (and in the future
> the 3rd edition), in order to learn modern AI theory. They have
> discontinued the 3rd edition but I succeeded in ordering a copy anyway.
> I have read the 1st and the 2nd editions, but I have not yet received by
> mail the 3rd edition.
>
> But I only got the PAIP book to learn Common LISP, not in order to study
> modern AI. This is why I'm discussing this in the news:comp.lang.LISP
> newsgroup.
>
> Any good modern LISP textbooks out there?
>
> Can anyone point to me any other good modern textbooks on AI than the
> 3rd edition of the Russell-Norvig book? (Which is reputable.)
>
> kind regards, Antti Ylikoski
> Helsinki, Finland, the E.U.

I answer my own question: it is a very good idea to visit the AAAI site

http://www.aaai.org

and purchase several conference proceedings of the biennal AAAI
conference. -- This is for those who want something more non-basic than
a textbook.

kind regards, Antti J. Ylikoski

(Dislaimer: in the LISP newsgroup this is almost off topic............)

PS. Also see the IJCAI biennal conference proceedings, from the Google
or the Bing.

Idem
From: "Antti "Andy" Ylikoski" on 13 Jun 2010 06:04
13.6.2010 8:46, Tamas K Papp kirjoitti:
> On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 07:02:32 +0300, Antti \"Andy\" Ylikoski wrote:
>
>> Any good modern LISP textbooks out there?
>
> Practical Common Lisp.
>
> Tamas

Yes, it is a good book -- I have read it but not yet done the programs
in the book, plus I will have to do the exercises.

Andy

From: "Antti "Andy" Ylikoski" on 14 Jun 2010 16:07
13.6.2010 23:57, nanothermite911fbibustards kirjoitti:
> On Jun 12, 9:02 pm, "Antti \"Andy\" Ylikoski"
> <antti.yliko...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> 12.6.2010 22:54, Pascal J. Bourguignon kirjoitti:
>>
>>> bolega<gnuist...(a)gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>>>> [PAIP]
>>
>>>> Is there anything in this old norvig book that makes it worth
>>>> pursuing as a text ?
>>
>>> Yes.
>>
>> I agree with his criticism that the book is "old", mine stems from the
>> year 1992.
>>
>> I bought and studied the Russell-Norvig books on "Artificial
>> Intelligence: A Modern Approach", ie. the 1th, 2nd (and in the future
>> the 3rd edition), in order to learn modern AI theory. They have
>> discontinued the 3rd edition but I succeeded in ordering a copy anyway.
>> I have read the 1st and the 2nd editions, but I have not yet received
>> by mail the 3rd edition.
>>
>> But I only got the PAIP book to learn Common LISP, not in order to study
>> modern AI. This is why I'm discussing this in the new:comp.lang.LISP
>> newsgroup.
>>
>> Any good modern LISP textbooks out there?
>>
>> Can anyone point to me any other good modern textbooks on AI than the
>> 3rd edition of the Russell-Norvig book? (Which is reputable.)
>>
>> kind regards, Antti Ylikoski
>> Helsinki, Finland, the E.U.
>
> Antti, did you forget to mention that in your love for the author and
> publisher you paid an extra tip ;) ?
>

Now what do you mean?

Yes, I'm a bibliophile. Wikipedia:

"The classic bibliophile is one who loves to read, admire and collect
books, often amassing a large and specialized collection....."

I have nothing to do with these publishers and authors with respect to
pecuniary points. They have never paid anything to me, and I have never
intentionally promoted their products in the commercial sense. (So I
would love to read some expert criticism here!!)

"Nervos rerum,
pecuniam."
-- unindentified acquaintances of mine.

But I agree with one of these previous posters (I was wrong about his
entry) that the Norvig book does contain a large amount of useful and
still today scientifically non-obsolete material (as far as I know)
which would be highly useful to a high-calibre AI researcher.

yours, AJY
Helsinki, Finland, the E.U.

"I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."
-- Quotation from the Bhagavad-gita;
J. Robert Oppenheimer's reaction to the first nuclear weapon tests
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