From: Andrei Popescu on
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 08:50:27PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2008/5/5 Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu(a)gmail.com>:
> > Is this a joke or am I missing something obvious? (wikipedia only shows
> > a Hebrew diacritic, Patach, that looks like a dash)
> >
>
> No, no joke. What system are you on? Even your replies have the Hebrew
> quoted properly.

$ mutt -v
Mutt 1.5.17 (2007-11-01)

[...]

System: Linux 2.6.24-1-686 (i686)

[...]

$ locale | grep LANG
LANG=en_US.UTF-8

$ mlterm -v
mlterm version 2.9.4

and the font I use is Terminus. I only see some dashes and spaces, but I
guess there are some fonts missing. On the console I see dashes and
diamonds. With xfce4-terminal and the Monospace font (I'm guessing it's
actually DejaVu) I can see the characters correctly (as far as I can
tell).

Regards,
Andrei
P.S. Now I'll reconsider switching to xfce4-terminal, though it starts
slower than mlterm
--
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
(Albert Einstein)
From: Andrei Popescu on
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 12:01:05AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2008/5/5 Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu(a)gmail.com>:
> > $ mutt -v
> > Mutt 1.5.17 (2007-11-01)
>
> Ah, Mutt is known not to work with Hebrew. There is a workaround, and
> I have it buried in my notes somewhere if you really need it. But
> unless you communicate in Hebrew, it is not worth the trouble.

It works under xfce4-terminal. Right now I am experimenting with
different fonts for mlterm, but can't seem to get it right.

Regards,
Andrei
--
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
(Albert Einstein)
From: Bob Cox on
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 00:01:05 +0300, Dotan Cohen (dotancohen(a)gmail.com) wrote:

> 2008/5/5 Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu(a)gmail.com>:
> > $ mutt -v
> > Mutt 1.5.17 (2007-11-01)
>
> Ah, Mutt is known not to work with Hebrew. There is a workaround, and
> I have it buried in my notes somewhere if you really need it. But
> unless you communicate in Hebrew, it is not worth the trouble.

> א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת

It all looks ok from here using mutt. I am seeing each character
separated by a dash or hyphen.

Mutt 1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14)

$ locale | grep LANG
LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=en_GB.UTF-8


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From: Andrei Popescu on
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 12:17:09AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2008/5/6 Bob Cox <debian-user(a)lists.bobcox.com>:
> >> Ah, Mutt is known not to work with Hebrew. There is a workaround, and
> >> I have it buried in my notes somewhere if you really need it. But
> >> unless you communicate in Hebrew, it is not worth the trouble.
> >
> > It all looks ok from here using mutt. I am seeing each character
> > separated by a dash or hyphen.
> >
>
> If so, then I have friends who would want to see your .mutt or .muttrc
> or whatever config file that program uses.
>
> Can you confirm that the aleph "א" is the rightmost character, and
> that the tav "ת" is the leftmost character? Thanks.

I can confirm that for you, but it only works if I use mutt under
xfce4-terminal. I doesn't work with mlterm (or I'm missing a setting).

I don't have anything related in my .muttrc except

set charset="utf-8"

but it works even if I unset that.

Regards,
Andrei
--
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
(Albert Einstein)
From: Douglas A. Tutty on
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 12:12:46AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 12:01:05AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > 2008/5/5 Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu(a)gmail.com>:
> > > $ mutt -v
> > > Mutt 1.5.17 (2007-11-01)
> >
> > Ah, Mutt is known not to work with Hebrew. There is a workaround, and
> > I have it buried in my notes somewhere if you really need it. But
> > unless you communicate in Hebrew, it is not worth the trouble.
>
> It works under xfce4-terminal. Right now I am experimenting with
> different fonts for mlterm, but can't seem to get it right.

If only locales didn't slow down all my boxes except for my big
Athlon64. Running a mixed C and UTF-8 home network is a PITA because
when you ssh in you have to remember to start with LANG=C anyway.

So your ??s look like ??s to me.

Its not that bad since one ?? would mean the same as another ?? to me
anyway.

What gets me is when a man page is written in english and "'" gets
translated as "?", as in can?t or "'" is a square white blob (on a
regular VT). Why couldn't whoever wrote it in english have used the
standard english "'" glyph instead of a UTF thingy?


Doug.


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