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From: RobertVA on 16 Apr 2008 14:55
kony wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 00:53:05 -0400, CBFalconer
> <cbfalconer(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Calab wrote:
>>> "Rookie" <rookie(a)hates.spam> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I see that even TFT TVs now are widescreen only. Doesn't that
>>>> mean that the picture will be deformed, since analogue tv signal
>>>> is 4:3?
>>> No... It means that you will have black bars at the sides of the
>>> picture.
>> Haven't you heard? Analog TV is to be exterminated.
>
>
> True but what about everything (content) already existing in
> 4:3 format or anything new produced with it? That may be
> digitally transmitted OTA but still the widescreen TV area
> can't be put to full use.

It's just NOT possible to make everyone happy.

You've been missing out on part of the image when you watch most
theatrical films on broadcast TV and videotape for decades. This is
sometimes called "pan and scan" because SOMETIMES someone takes the time
to shift the cropping when important images are at ONE side of the frame
BUT occasionally important images are at both sides and something has to
be distorted or sacrificed. With DVDs you often get to buy the "Full
Screen" version with the partial image (still missing parts of it like
watching the broadcast) or the letterboxed (black bars at the top and
bottom) "Wide Screen" version.

For the last several years many prime time network TV shows are recorded
in wide aspect ratios and the sides are cropped off for the standard
definition feed affiliates use for their analog simulcast. A few
programs (like CBS/Paramont's "Enterprise") and a pretty fair number of
commercials are letterboxed (there's that underutilized screen real
estate again!).

I've even read complaints that a significant portion of programming on
SOME "HD" cable/satelite channels is cropped to standard definition 4:3
aspect ratio when converted from film to video then stretched to the
16:9 widescreen ratio, distorting everything out of proportion.
From: UCLAN on 16 Apr 2008 16:28
CBFalconer wrote:

>>>I see that even TFT TVs now are widescreen only. Doesn't that
>>>mean that the picture will be deformed, since analogue tv signal
>>>is 4:3?
>>
>>No... It means that you will have black bars at the sides of the
>>picture.
>
> Haven't you heard? Analog TV is to be exterminated.

Much of what is broadcast digitally is 4:3. Digital doesn't mean 16:9.

It's either stretch, zoom, or have black bars with 4:3 programming on
a 16:9 screen. I prefer the latter.

--
Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens.
From: DaveW on 16 Apr 2008 18:30
The analog signal will only take up the center portion of the screen. The
whole screen will only be used for widescreen broadcast shows.

--
--DaveW


"Rookie" <rookie(a)hates.spam> wrote in message
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>I see that even TFT TVs now are widescreen only. Doesn't that mean that the
> picture will be deformed, since analogue tv signal is 4:3?


From: GT on 18 Apr 2008 06:31

"UCLAN" <nomail(a)thanks.org> wrote in message
news:IjtNj.18070$yD6.6735(a)newsfe08.phx...
> CBFalconer wrote:
>
>>>>I see that even TFT TVs now are widescreen only. Doesn't that
>>>>mean that the picture will be deformed, since analogue tv signal
>>>>is 4:3?
>>>
>>>No... It means that you will have black bars at the sides of the
>>>picture.
>>
>> Haven't you heard? Analog TV is to be exterminated.
>
> Much of what is broadcast digitally is 4:3. Digital doesn't mean 16:9.
>
> It's either stretch, zoom, or have black bars with 4:3 programming on
> a 16:9 screen. I prefer the latter.

And you get the same choice if you buy an overpriced widescreen TV. As
mentioned here, normal broadcasting is 4:3, so you are better buying a large
4:3 aspect TV and getting the full picture and when watching a widescreen
film or broadcast, opt for the black top and bottom - you still get a larger
picture for the money than if you buy a widescreen set!


From: kony on 18 Apr 2008 06:50
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:31:25 +0100, "GT"
<ContactGT_remove_(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>"UCLAN" <nomail(a)thanks.org> wrote in message
>news:IjtNj.18070$yD6.6735(a)newsfe08.phx...
>> CBFalconer wrote:
>>
>>>>>I see that even TFT TVs now are widescreen only. Doesn't that
>>>>>mean that the picture will be deformed, since analogue tv signal
>>>>>is 4:3?
>>>>
>>>>No... It means that you will have black bars at the sides of the
>>>>picture.
>>>
>>> Haven't you heard? Analog TV is to be exterminated.
>>
>> Much of what is broadcast digitally is 4:3. Digital doesn't mean 16:9.
>>
>> It's either stretch, zoom, or have black bars with 4:3 programming on
>> a 16:9 screen. I prefer the latter.
>
>And you get the same choice if you buy an overpriced widescreen TV. As
>mentioned here, normal broadcasting is 4:3, so you are better buying a large
>4:3 aspect TV and getting the full picture and when watching a widescreen
>film or broadcast, opt for the black top and bottom - you still get a larger
>picture for the money than if you buy a widescreen set!
>

You are assuming any given inch measurement in both ratios
would cost the same, which isn't necessarily true. Also,
newer models with improved technology tend to be widescreen.
Sometimes I wish they'd just struck a happy medium and made
8:5 ratio which might allow cropping both std. and
widescreen without so much image loss.


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