Win98se and 48 bit LBA
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From: sleepy on 14 Feb 2006 20:24 Apologies if covered previously, no time to keep up lately. After reading one page on the hard drive limit for win98 and drivers over (is it) 137GB, I am more confused than before. I want to buy a 160GB or larger HD and use it on a win98SE box. None of my partitions will be over 100GB, so am I safe to use such a drive? Bios is good to 137GB I believe and can be upgraded easily for larger drives. Do I need to upgrade the bios first before installing it? Or can I just go ahead with a good partitioning utility (not fdisk) and partition the new drive?
From: Rod Speed on 15 Feb 2006 04:04 sleepy <sleepy(a)notdopey.org> wrote > Apologies if covered previously, no time to keep up lately. > After reading one page on the hard drive limit for win98 and > drivers over (is it) 137GB, I am more confused than before. > I want to buy a 160GB or larger HD and use it on a win98SE box. > None of my partitions will be over 100GB, > so am I safe to use such a drive? Nope. The limit applys to the physical drive, not the partition. > Bios is good to 137GB I believe and can > be upgraded easily for larger drives. > Do I need to upgrade the bios first before installing it? SE isnt supported for drives over 137G > Or can I just go ahead with a good partitioning > utility (not fdisk) and partition the new drive? Nope, the limit applys to the physical drive, not the partition. http://www.48bitlba.com/index.htm
From: Jonny on 15 Feb 2006 06:41 "sleepy" <sleepy(a)notdopey.org> wrote in message news:dstvt0$b60$1(a)nntp.aioe.org... > Apologies if covered previously, no time to keep up lately. > > After reading one page on the hard drive limit for win98 and drivers > over (is it) 137GB, I am more confused than before. > > I want to buy a 160GB or larger HD and use it on a win98SE box. > > None of my partitions will be over 100GB, so am I safe to use such a > drive? Bios is good to 137GB I believe and can be upgraded easily for > larger drives. > > Do I need to upgrade the bios first before installing it? Or can I just > go ahead with a good partitioning utility (not fdisk) and partition the > new drive? You don't need a bios upgrade to use the physical capacity of the hard drive to 132GB of total capacity. My own experience show in 98SE, if you use such a drive fully partitioned to its capacity, any number of partitions, and, if you save data in excess of 128GB, you'll have file data and FAT corruption at that point. -- Jonny
From: Rod Speed on 15 Feb 2006 15:44 sleepy <sleepy(a)notdopey.org> wrote: > "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote in > news:45g94aF6eh0fU1(a)individual.net: > > <snip> > >> Nope. The limit applys to the physical drive, not the partition. >> >>> Bios is good to 137GB I believe and can >>> be upgraded easily for larger drives. >> > > Thanks for the replies from Rod and Johnny. Judging from the > incomplete instructions at http://www.48bitlba.com/win98.htm#novice I > might be better off just buying a smaller drive, since I have no > plans to go to a later version of windoze. > > There is both a bios upgrade for large drives and a chipset upgrade > for my gigabyte MB, so I don't know if I should use both or just the > bios upgrade. Academic if you are going for a smaller drive or a controller card. > Anyone know if most of these larger drives, was looking at a 160GB > Seagate, have controller cards for them to support the 48bit standard? Yes, they are available. That is the main way to use the larger drives with SE. > Plus I'm using a fairly early version of bootit ng so, > who knows how it will interact with a 48bit based drive. > Can anyone say built in obsolescence? It isnt built in, its inevitable with an industry that moves so fast. There wont be another with hard drives any time soon.
From: Folkert Rienstra on 15 Feb 2006 15:54
"sleepy" <sleepy(a)notdopey.org> wrote in message news:dt02ki$ge7$1(a)nntp.aioe.org > "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote in news:45g94aF6eh0fU1(a)individual.net: > > <snip> > > > Nope. The limit applys to the physical drive, not the partition. > > > > > Bios is good to 137GB I believe and can > > > be upgraded easily for larger drives. > > > > Thanks for the replies from Rod and Johnny. Thanks that they obviously don't deserve since they both had it wrong. > Judging from the incomplete instructions at http://www.48bitlba.com/win98.htm#novice What incomplete instructions. > I might be better off just buying a smaller drive, since I have no > plans to go to a later version of windoze. The only difference between novice user and advanced user is that they don't trust the novice users to buy an add-in controller -that you get with some bundled drives- themselfs. > > There is both a bios upgrade for large drives and a chipset upgrade for > my gigabyte MB, so I don't know if I should use both or just the bios > upgrade. > > Anyone know if most of these larger drives, was looking at a 160GB > Seagate, have controller cards for them to support the 48bit standard? http://www.48bitlba.com/win98.htm#advanced paragraph 1. > > Plus I'm using a fairly early version of bootit ng so, who knows how it > will interact with a 48-bit based drive. Doesn't make any difference how old it is. Bios will be the decisive point here. And if the last partition starts within the 137GB limit range there is no problem at all. > > Can anyone say built in obsolescence? Do I win a prize if I do? |