Would you consider newer Macs and their newer OS' as PCs?
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From: Ant on 23 Jun 2008 09:13 Hello! Since newer Macs and their Mac OS X can do PC stuff with dual boot, virtual programs (e.g., VMware and VirtualBox), use other OS (e.g., Linux), etc. Would you consider them PCs now? My friend (a PC guy :P) and I had a debate that they are not PCs. To me, they are PCs since they can do PCs stuff. He argued it can't do PC/Windows games, use all the latest and greatest PC peripherials and cards from day 1, etc. What do you guys think? Thank you in advance. :) -- "We are anthill men upon an anthill world." --Ray Bradbury /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Remove ANT from e-mail address: philpi(a)earthlink.netANT ( ) or ANTant(a)zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer.
From: Greg Buchner on 23 Jun 2008 09:42 In article <485fa16c$0$7045$4c368faf(a)roadrunner.com>, Ant <ANTant(a)zimage.com> wrote: > Since newer Macs and their Mac OS X can do PC stuff with dual boot, > virtual programs (e.g., VMware and VirtualBox), use other OS (e.g., > Linux), etc. Would you consider them PCs now? They've always been PC's. PC = Personal Computer. They just haven't been IBM Compatible PC's or Wintel PC's. (Take your pic.) There were PC's before IBM came along with the IBM PC. Greg Buchner -- Actual e-mail address is gregbuchner and I'm located at gmail.com
From: Guenther Fischer on 23 Jun 2008 09:54 In article <null-3D8259.08424023062008(a)newsgroups.comcast.net>, Greg Buchner <null(a)none.invalid> wrote: > In article <485fa16c$0$7045$4c368faf(a)roadrunner.com>, > Ant <ANTant(a)zimage.com> wrote: > > > Since newer Macs and their Mac OS X can do PC stuff with dual boot, > > virtual programs (e.g., VMware and VirtualBox), use other OS (e.g., > > Linux), etc. Would you consider them PCs now? > > They've always been PC's. PC = Personal Computer. They just haven't been > IBM Compatible PC's or Wintel PC's. (Take your pic.) > > There were PC's before IBM came along with the IBM PC. My first PC was an apple II. My second PC should have been a Dell. But they had no German keyboard driver at that time - so the PC became a Mac Plus. Not really cheap, but worth the money...
From: sbt on 23 Jun 2008 09:58 In article <485fa16c$0$7045$4c368faf(a)roadrunner.com>, Ant <ANTant(a)zimage.com> wrote: > Hello! > > Since newer Macs and their Mac OS X can do PC stuff with dual boot, > virtual programs (e.g., VMware and VirtualBox), use other OS (e.g., > Linux), etc. Would you consider them PCs now? > > My friend (a PC guy :P) and I had a debate that they are not PCs. To me, > they are PCs since they can do PCs stuff. He argued it can't do > PC/Windows games, use all the latest and greatest PC peripherials and > cards from day 1, etc. > > What do you guys think? Thank you in advance. :) Well, by "PC" I think you mean to say "Windows". PC means "personal computer" and the Apple ][s and various CP/M-based systems of the late 70s were called personal computers, even before the advent of the "IBM PC" in 1980 or so. But, if you go back to "PC World Magazine", I think you'll find them rating the new Mac laptops as the fastest laptops for running Windows. InfoWorld (in late 2007) also listed the MacBook Pro as the best Windows laptop. -- Spenser
From: Gregory Weston on 23 Jun 2008 10:05
In article <485fa16c$0$7045$4c368faf(a)roadrunner.com>, Ant <ANTant(a)zimage.com> wrote: > Hello! > > Since newer Macs and their Mac OS X can do PC stuff with dual boot, > virtual programs (e.g., VMware and VirtualBox), use other OS (e.g., > Linux), etc. Would you consider them PCs now? I've considered them PCs for more than 24 years. Then again, I've worked on mainframes and minis. To me, "personal computer" doesn't have capital letters. > My friend (a PC guy :P) and I had a debate that they are not PCs. To me, > they are PCs since they can do PCs stuff. He argued it can't do > PC/Windows games, use all the latest and greatest PC peripherials and > cards from day 1, etc. > > What do you guys think? Thank you in advance. :) I think your friend's argument is ill-informed, even taking into account the common definition of "PC" as meaning "in the effective lineage of the IBM Personal Computer" rather than the more general "personal computer." Modern Macs are no less capable of the things he listed than name-brand Windows-running machines. -- "Harry?" Ron's voice was a mere whisper. "Do you smell something ... burning?" - Harry Potter and the Odor of the Phoenix |