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From: Vwaju on 1 Feb 2008 08:31 I have studied Slackware Linux Essentials and Running Linux, and I'm stuck. I have my 9.1 Slackware installation configured to start the sendmail server at boot and ps -acux shows that send mail is running. I have a solid broadband internet connection, and I can retrieve mail from my ISP using fetchmail. However, I can't send seem to SEND any email. I've tried sending messages in nail, elm and mutt without success. Both elm and mutt say "Mail sent!", but it doesn't get to my ISP (because I can't retrieve it with fetchmail). Can anyone tell me what I might be doing wrong? Thanks and Best Regards, Vwaju New York City
From: loki harfagr on 1 Feb 2008 08:53 On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 05:31:54 -0800, Vwaju wrote: > I have studied Slackware Linux Essentials and Running Linux, and I'm > stuck. > > I have my 9.1 Slackware installation configured to start the sendmail > server at boot and ps -acux shows that send mail is running. > > I have a solid broadband internet connection, and I can retrieve mail > from my ISP using fetchmail. > > However, I can't send seem to SEND any email. I've tried sending > messages in nail, elm and mutt without success. > > Both elm and mutt say "Mail sent!", but it doesn't get to my ISP > (because I can't retrieve it with fetchmail). > > Can anyone tell me what I might be doing wrong? Probably using an incomplete configuration ;-) (OK, I know it's not absolutely helpul a remark) Could you please first check these simple tests that will help us to have an idea about the type of error you have: as user: $ mail -H as root: # mail -H # sendmail -bp -v -Ac # sendmail -bp -v # sendmail -bv -f yourlocaluser root # sendmail -bv -f yourvaliduser(a)yourvaliddomain addressee(a)aoutsidevaliddomain post the integral results (for the 'mail -H' an excerpt will be enough in case you have zillion bounces :-)
From: William Hunt on 1 Feb 2008 16:25 On Fri, 1 Feb 2008, Vwaju wrote: > I have studied Slackware Linux Essentials and Running Linux, and I'm > stuck. an excellent start :*) > I have my 9.1 Slackware installation configured to start the sendmail > server at boot and ps -acux shows that send mail is running. good ... > I have a solid broadband internet connection, and I can retrieve mail > from my ISP using fetchmail. good > However, I can't send seem to SEND any email. I've tried sending > messages in nail, elm and mutt without success. > Both elm and mutt say "Mail sent!", but it doesn't get to my ISP > (because I can't retrieve it with fetchmail). > Can anyone tell me what I might be doing wrong? > Thanks and Best Regards, > Vwaju > New York City This could be any of a couple of different problems ... (but, good that you tried several apps...) I _suspect_ the problem is entirely with your ISP. Many ISP will refuse to accept mail from "suspicious" sources - even from their own network. This is particularly true of (US based) cable TV companies which see themselves as entertainment providers and not as communication providers. example: comcast.net <<spit!>> Many mail servers will refuse to deliver mail from a server running on a dynamic ip#, or from a mail server in a netblock where the ISP prohibits running a mail server. example: comcast.net <<spit!>> Many mail servers will refuse to deliver mail from a server for which the given hostname does not match the reverse DNS of the sender's ip#. example: craigslist.com. A quick look shows me that your ip# does NOT have a 'good' reverse DNS set up. (assuming your SMTP uses the same ip# as your NNTP). This is not good. Because sendmail says, 'Mail sent', we can assume that sendmail was told by the recceiving server, your ISP, that the mail was accepted. The receiving server may have tried to send a bounce notice for you, but for any of the reasons above, it did not reach you. A quick test: send me email at the address in the From: above. I'll bet two BOZO points i get it :*) My server will talk to anyone. Use a Subject: "MAILSERVER TEST" to be sure i don't miss it. HTH -- William Hunt, Portland Oregon USA
From: Will Renkel on 2 Feb 2008 07:51 wjh(a)prv8.net wrote: >On Fri, 1 Feb 2008, Vwaju wrote: >> I have studied Slackware Linux Essentials and Running Linux, and I'm >> stuck. > >an excellent start :*) > > >> I have my 9.1 Slackware installation configured to start the sendmail >> server at boot and ps -acux shows that send mail is running. > >good ... > > >> I have a solid broadband internet connection, and I can retrieve mail >> from my ISP using fetchmail. > >good > > >> However, I can't send seem to SEND any email. I've tried sending >> messages in nail, elm and mutt without success. >> Both elm and mutt say "Mail sent!", but it doesn't get to my ISP >> (because I can't retrieve it with fetchmail). >> Can anyone tell me what I might be doing wrong? >> Thanks and Best Regards, >> Vwaju >> New York City > > >This could be any of a couple of different problems ... >(but, good that you tried several apps...) > >I _suspect_ the problem is entirely with your ISP. Many ISP will >refuse to accept mail from "suspicious" sources - even from their >own network. This is particularly true of (US based) cable TV >companies which see themselves as entertainment providers and not >as communication providers. example: comcast.net <<spit!>> > >Many mail servers will refuse to deliver mail from a server running >on a dynamic ip#, or from a mail server in a netblock where the ISP >prohibits running a mail server. example: comcast.net <<spit!>> > >Many mail servers will refuse to deliver mail from a server for >which the given hostname does not match the reverse DNS of the >sender's ip#. example: craigslist.com. > >A quick look shows me that your ip# does NOT have a 'good' reverse >DNS set up. (assuming your SMTP uses the same ip# as your NNTP). >This is not good. > > > > >Because sendmail says, 'Mail sent', we can assume that sendmail >was told by the recceiving server, your ISP, that the mail was >accepted. The receiving server may have tried to send a bounce >notice for you, but for any of the reasons above, it did not >reach you. > >A quick test: send me email at the address in the From: above. >I'll bet two BOZO points i get it :*) My server will talk to >anyone. Use a Subject: "MAILSERVER TEST" to be sure i don't >miss it. > >HTH >-- >William Hunt, Portland Oregon USA If the poroblem is the reverse DNS and if all his outbound mail is going to just one relay and thats where its bouncing, then NO mail will go out. Thats what happens if for example you use AOL fot your ISP and try to sned mail via mutt, nail Outlook Express etc If you use AOLs mail it works I found that out cause I tried somethinmg "cute" with cygwin. Good Luck -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Will Renkel Wheaton, Ill. ---------------------------------------------------------------
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